Just My Opinion...

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

So i was sitting in my family room, watching BBC World News. When all of a sudden, President bush is quoted to say " Treat our POW's Humanely" Yes, much like he is doing with all the afgans sittin in cells smaller than most mid-sized cars. He as well as most americans make me sick. I'm Saying this not as a "North American" but as a european, north america in general, i hate. The opinions of most people on this side of the world sway with what everyone else has to say, not only has originality left society, but Public Opinion is all Flowers and Sunshine simply because people are against a war they have no idea about in the first place.

All this talk about War, and some American cities having mass Anti-War protests got me thinking. Why are most people for this war? " Because saddam needs to be taken out of power", A quote often heard on CNN, but beyond that, have they got any logical and well thought out. No, of course they can't, because they merely feed off the information given to them by a bias news station. I'm all for war. Diplomacy was given a chance yes, but instead of having a more traditional war, what do the americans do?
Call in the Air Support! According to reports there were less than 100 Iraqi soldiers and conscripts holding a town, and America, being the brave state they are, called in
F 16 fighters to Napalm them into next week, lovely don't you think?


Also, the recent " Accident" Involving a British helicopter, being shot down by a US Patriot missle.... Umm, Patriot missles have to be fired manually, doesn't anyone else see a problem with this? This would be the second set of friendly fire casualties within the last 2 years involving americans.... First they bomb four innocent Canadian soldiers ( The Pilot was dis-honourably discharged in the end, so some closure for that) and now this. American efficiency at it's best i suppose.


I'll be watching CNN tonight when i am getting ready for bed, like i have been for the better part of 2 weeks, to see what the continuing " Shock and Awe" campaign will leave on Iraq. This may sound incredibly cold, but when America finally reaches Baghdad and 100s upon 1000s of Americans are slaughtered in the worst Urban Combat situation since Stalingrad begins, i will be smiling at every drop of blood that comes out of there body.

Because then, and only then, will they realize that the world isn't going to be a pushover anymore.

You know. I can understand why one would feel this way. Watching thousands of ignorant american's waving flags on TV with no thought to the consequences. Without even considering what this war means. That they are being lied to by their governments. I am an american and I am not in favor of this war. If I actually believed that this was a war to liberate Iraq and not to gain control of vast amounts of oil I would be in favor of it, but we know that when Baghdad is taken, a government will be set up, probably much like the one in Afghanistan, with no democracy what so ever.


So as I said, I am not for this war.


But you have to go and say something like this......

ut when America finally reaches Baghdad and 100s upon 1000s of Americans are slaughtered in the worst Urban Combat situation since Stalingrad begins, i will be smiling at every drop of blood that comes out of there body.

You prove once again why I will never actively protest this war.

That may be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. You WANT americans to die. I suppose the Iraqi's lives are more valuable than the Americans?

I don't support this war because during war people will DIE and but this point, the quickest path to the end of the war, and the end of death is a quick american victory, which is what I hope will happen. I'd like to think this is what the majority of protesters believe but unfortunately morons like you prove me wrong.

In this country I see people comparing George Bush to hitler. These people should do the gene pool a favor and go jump in the lake with cement shoes. George Bush is an awful president but he also hasn't killed SIX MILLION JEWS out of pure hatred, nor has he slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Russians, Slavs, Poles or other people simply because of their nationality. George Bush is not a good man, but to compare him to Hitler is sheer Ignorance.

Legitimate protesters of the war protest it because it will mean the deaths of many lives, you however are only against the American side out of ignorance and hatred. Don't you realize that this makes you no better than the many raciest Americans that support this war out of a desire for bloodlust and revenge against arabs?

You want us to suffer and for that I wish upon you the shame to realize the mistakes you have made in hopes that you will see the errors of your ways.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Actually,i dont' wish for Americans to die. When 9/11 happened i felt remorse for America.

Soon after that they have started there little game of Imperialism, and have basically tried to start an empire by putting themselves all over the map.

This war by all rights shouldn't be happening, but you know what, if Americans die because they are in something they shouldn't be, so be it.

I don't support this war because during war people will DIE and but this point, the quickest path to the end of the war, and the end of death is a quick american victory, which is what I hope will happen. I'd like to think this is what the majority of protesters believe but unfortunately morons like you prove me wrong.

Yes, a " quick " war, clearly the war wouldn't last 2 weeks like most americans and others thought, why do you think the UN had such heavy protest towards this attack, they knew it was going to be drawn out, Air Strikes do what? Jack ****, it just makes for more rubble to be faught on when ground troops reach the capital. If anyone is being ignorant, it's you.

To argue your other " Points". I am not only against an American side of this war, because the iraqis are far from innocent, but when you bring in AIR STRIKES to kill under 100 people, it isn't a war, it's a ****ing joke, they shouldn't have sent in ground troops if they aren't going to be used, they are honestly making a mockery of war.

Of course we all want a quick outcome, it's just not going to happen, If Saddam is going down, he will take as many people down with him as possible, so instead of saying useless **** like " People compare Bush to hitler" i'd like you to point out ONE person who has said that btw. Try and make logical points instead of accusing me of being Racist simply because of how i
think one country is handling a delicate situation

And to further argue your point, i'm not against war, i'm for it, it has to be done, but i just think the Americans are going at it the wrong way, thinking it's going to be easy, remember WWI " We'll be home by christmas" 4 years and like 4 million dead later, they were home. Well most at least.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Actually,i dont' wish for Americans to die. When 9/11 happened i felt remorse for America.

Soon after that they have started there little game of Imperialism, and have basically tried to start an empire by putting themselves all over the map.

This war by all rights shouldn't be happening, but you know what, if Americans die because they are in something they shouldn't be, so be it.

I don't think you know why we're fighting this war do you. That was the most ignorant post I've ever read.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
I don't think you know why we're fighting this war do you. That was the most ignorant post I've ever read.

Well there are many Theories actually, one of which. Oil, makes the most sense. Taking out Saddam? Hardly, he has become a less than primary focus in this attack. They are trying to make a point to the middle east? The Afgan strike had the same effect, nothing like attacking a nation with less than adequite firepower and technology.

Anywho, back to the topic at hand.

I try very hard to not get sucked into the Propeganda put forth by your government, i am actually pretty even on this war, i honestly couldn't give a **** who wins, although clearly we all know America will, they have the numbers to do so.

Another thing, you didn't honestly think the they would surrender did you? i am willing to bet 90 percent of those 2000 or how many of them surrendered were all conscripts and they had no desire to fight, this isn't like Gulf War I , instead of being an Invading force, they are now defending against a invading force, in there country, and will be damned giving it up without a fight.

[Bond]

You went a little over the line here Rick.

Have you no respect for human life?

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by Bond
You went a little over the line here Rick.

Have you no respect for human life?

Yes, i do have respect for human life, innocent human life, i have great compassion for, i would rather have 5 to 1 ratio on soldiers to innocent civilians die, of any race, or culture, innocent deaths upset me the most in war.

Hearing stories about Iraqi soldiers using Women and Children as SHIELDS makes me sick.

[Bond]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Yes, i do have respect for human life, innocent human life, i have great compassion for, i would rather have 5 to 1 ratio on soldiers to innocent civilians die, of any race, or culture, innocent deaths upset me the most in war.

Hearing stories about Iraqi soldiers using Women and Children as SHIELDS makes me sick.

when America finally reaches Baghdad and 100s upon 1000s of Americans are slaughtered in the worst Urban Combat situation since Stalingrad begins, i will be smiling at every drop of blood that comes out of there body.

I won't say anything more.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by Bond
I won't say anything more.

Ok, Soldiers, are not innocent people, they enlist for the opportunity to KILL others, that is not innocent, and if you think it is. You've got a problem.

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Well there are many Theories actually, one of which. Oil, makes the most sense. Taking out Saddam? Hardly, he has become a less than primary focus in this attack.

You do realize we may have killed him with the FIRST airstrike. 4 Bunkerbusters and 18 Tomahawk Cruse Missles were droped on a compound belived to have been housing saddam on wednesday night.

Saddam has not appeared on tv live since then (Two videos were released, and both of them were obviously pre recorded to be shown in event of something like this happening) He is believed to be in serious condition, and no state to lead the country. One of his sons is believed to be dead.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
Actually,i dont' wish for Americans to die.


I'll be watching CNN tonight when i am getting ready for bed, like i have been for the better part of 2 weeks, to see what the continuing " Shock and Awe" campaign will leave on Iraq. This may sound incredibly cold, but when America finally reaches Baghdad and 100s upon 1000s of Americans are slaughtered in the worst Urban Combat situation since Stalingrad begins, i will be smiling at every drop of blood that comes out of there body.

It sounds like you want us to die. What is your problem? We're fighting to give Iraqi's freedom. I have a friend and her father is Iraqi. He almost died getting out of the country and much of his family is starving. Some even dead. By what I'm hearing from you your probably French. We've wanted this war to happen for a long time. We're not taking over we're saving Iraq. You really don't know what your talking about. :\

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by Stonecutter
You do realize we may have killed him with the FIRST airstrike. 4 Bunkerbusters and 18 Tomahawk Cruse Missles were droped on a compound belived to have been housing saddam on wednesday night.

Saddam has not appeared on tv live since then (Two videos were released, and both of them were obviously pre recorded to be shown in event of something like this happening) He is believed to be in serious condition, and no state to lead the country. One of his sons is believed to be dead.

That is a very good point Stonecutter, you at least are knowledgeable.

But in saying that, Most of the major news stations said they Fatally injured Bin Laden in a strike in the mountains in December 2001, turns out he wasn't even there.

So the credibility of the reports can be questioned. But i am very glad you brought that up

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
It sounds like you want us to die. What is your problem? We're fighting to give Iraqi's freedom. I have a friend and her father is Iraqi. He almost died getting out of the country and much of his family is starving. Some even dead. By what I'm hearing from you your probably French. We've wanted this war to happen for a long time. We're not taking over we're saving Iraq. You really don't know what your talking about. :\

LOL " we're not taking over, we're saving iraq" so a full scale invasion of a country isn't taking over its " Saving ". So when saddam is over thrown and a government is put in place that will be no more democratic then the one put into place in afganistan, the only difference? This government will be in America's Back pocket.

So PLEASE instead of lining off all these bull**** one liners like " We are fighting for freedom" learn what the **** you are talking about.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
LOL " we're not taking over, we're saving iraq" so a full scale invasion of a country isn't taking over its " Saving ". So when saddam is over thrown and a government is put in place that will be no more democratic then the one put into place in afganistan, the only difference? This government will be in America's Back pocket.

So PLEASE instead of lining off all these bull**** one liners like " We are fighting for freedom" learn what the **** you are talking about.

whatever, I'm not going to argue this anymore, believe what you want to believe.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
whatever, I'm not going to argue this anymore, believe what you want to believe.

Ok, answer me this, in all honesty, do you know ANYTHING about Politics of War?