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Old 08-23-2002, 05:26 PM   #1
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By MARI YAMAGUCHI
.c The Associated Press

TOKYO (Aug. 22) - A group of privately funded Japanese scientists has a mammoth project for Siberia - a safari park they hope might eventually feature a genetic hybrid of the extinct woolly mammals and modern-day elephants.

For several years, the researchers have conducted excavations in Siberia in hopes of finding a frozen specimen well enough preserved in the Siberian tundra for its DNA to be used to impregnate an elephant.

"If we can find a somatic (body) cell, or preferably a sperm cell, that is intact, we can recreate a mammoth,'' said Shoji Okutsu, a veterinary expert at Kagoshima University. "If everything goes successfully and we have baby mammoths, we don't want to keep them at a zoo. We want them to live in an environment as close as possible to where their ancestors once lived.''

That is a big if - so far, no mammoth sperm or other cells bearing cloning-quality DNA has been found and there are no guarantees any ever will be.

Even so, the Mammoth Creation Project in 1996 won permission from Russia's Sakha region to use a 52-square-mile preserve near Duvannyi Yar in Siberia should they ever succeed.

The sanctuary won't likely be a big tourist attraction - the Siberian preserve is currently accessible only by helicopter, and is not open to the public.

But tigers, giant deer, moose and other Siberian animals believed to have coexisted with woolly mammoths are already there, said Mammoth Creation Society Chairman Kazutoshi Kobayashi.

Kobayashi is president of Field, a technology patenting business that has provided hundreds of thousands of dollars for the project over the past six years.

So far, veterinary experts from Kagoshima University in southern Japan, joined by genetic scientists at Kinki University in western Japan, have searched mainly along the Kolimaya River in western Siberia.

They have found mammoth fossils, including legs, buried under permafrost. But the DNA inside turned out to be damaged by time and climate changes, and was unusable.

The society sent a team of researchers to the area last year, and plans to do so again next summer, Kobayashi said. He said they did not go this month - August is the best time because of the weather - as they are still studying the data collected from their last trip.

Tetsuya Taga, the director of Institute of Molecular Embryology and Genetics at Kumamoto University who is not associated with the project, said sperm could theoretically be preserved well enough if they are frozen, but that finding such high-quality specimens would be difficult.

"If the sperm is in the ice, it was under stress and may have been damaged,'' he said. "But you cannot say it's impossible.''

Even if mammoths can be reproduced, however, some experts doubt the plan's viability.

Mitsuko Masui, director of Yokohama Zoo, near Tokyo, said simply keeping a mammoth alive is a new challenge since little is known about the animals.

"You can't recreate the environment that the mammoths lived in. Can a mammoth really survive in today's environment?'' Masui said. "I don't think they've deliberated that enough.''

Establishing a breeding population could be even tougher, Masui said, citing problems zookeepers already have with such non-extinct species as pandas.

The researchers admit they have a long way to go - with the lack of usable DNA being the major obstacle for now.

But they say their idea is fairly straightforward - by using retrieved DNA from to impregnate an elephant, they could produce a half-elephant, half-mammoth offspring. Over several generations, a creature genetically close to the prehistoric one could be created.

"Some people may question the ethics of what we are trying to do, but all we want to do is to make our dream come true,'' Kobayashi said.


I think this would be pretty cool if they can find some DNA that's in good condition. I'm glad their idea isn't to make it a zoo or a "Jurassic Park" so to speak.
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Old 08-23-2002, 06:40 PM   #2
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Old 08-23-2002, 07:36 PM   #3
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I really dont have a problem with them bringing back extinct animals...Its not like it will effect the animal, its been dead for so long.
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One thing is certain: a mammoth will not walk this earth for another ten years. Maybe even twenty years. We can't even clone humans, and that task is a cakewalk compared to this. At least we have something to incubate a cloned human (namely a human female willing to act as the surrogate mother). To create a mammoth, you would have to grow the thing entirely in a test tube. We can't even do that with humans. At most, human eggs are only fertilized in the lab.

Besides, to what end would we do this? A mammoth lives again, and then...?
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i think the world has enough crap in it already, do we really need mammoths?
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Old 08-23-2002, 08:44 PM   #6
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Old 08-23-2002, 10:51 PM   #7
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One thing is certain: a mammoth will not walk this earth for another ten years. Maybe even twenty years. We can't even clone humans, and that task is a cakewalk compared to this. At least we have something to incubate a cloned human (namely a human female willing to act as the surrogate mother). To create a mammoth, you would have to grow the thing entirely in a test tube. We can't even do that with humans. At most, human eggs are only fertilized in the lab.

Besides, to what end would we do this? A mammoth lives again, and then...?


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Old 08-23-2002, 11:11 PM   #8
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I think they would try to place it in a elephant. It wouldnt be totaly mamnoth, but more mammoth/elephant hybrid.
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:24 AM   #9
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At least we have something to incubate a cloned human (namely a human female willing to act as the surrogate mother). To create a mammoth, you would have to grow the thing entirely in a test tube. We can't even do that with humans. At most, human eggs are only fertilized in the lab.
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But they say their idea is fairly straightforward - by using retrieved DNA from to impregnate an elephant, they could produce a half-elephant, half-mammoth offspring. Over several generations, a creature genetically close to the prehistoric one could be created.
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Great, just what we all need -- A mammoth! I dunno about you guys but I've been waiting for years for scientists to clone mammoths.

This is easily the second worst idea I've heard all day. What the hell good can a mammoth do? Why not just create a walking piece of paper that can float in the air for extended periods of time, seeing as how both this and cloning mammoths would do the same thing... Be a huge waste of everyone's time.
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:54 AM   #11
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Just out of curiosity, what was the first worst idea you heard today nWoCHRISnWo?
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