Hehe angrist. i have the same prob as u but if the game goes on longer they usually manage to wipe me out anyways so i can't win either way

. But in this on really long game that went on forever, it wuz 4v4 on a map that had 4 gold mines in the middle and a bunch of other ones and 2 of my guys dropped off, one at the start and one a little later and the enemie had all 4 and every gold mine cept one that my ally had. Well funnything is i only had 8 shamans, 4 docs, 2 grunts a hero and 6 or 7 tarun.... a lot u say? well not that much when 4 guys each have that and are in a group. how did i win u say? well we just held out in our bases and fended em off till they ran outa gold

it eventually did (yay for burrows, they helped a lot) and they sent a little forces at a time and they got to a point where they have no gold and no forces and sum left and we wasted the others

just goes to show ya it pays to hold out.