V for Vendetta

Bond · 07-22-2005, 09:15 PM

Trailer: http://natalieportman.com/video/v_fo...40_reflect.mov

Looks cool.

Professor S · 07-23-2005, 01:55 AM

The obvious social criticism seems awfully heavy handed to me. Hopefully the full delivery will be a little less pedestrian in the entirety of the film.

Happydude · 07-23-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

The obvious social criticism seems awfully heavy handed to me. Hopefully the full delivery will be a little less pedestrian in the entirety of the film.

in plain english please?

i think this movie will either be really good or really bad...as with the matirx, there won't be an in-between. so far i would say it's looking quite good.

Professor S · 07-23-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydude

in plain english please?

What I took from the trailer was that this is basically a version of Orwell's 1984, but with a violent male superhero protagonist. The "Big Brother" government is obviously meant to be the current united states, with the references to a government that rules through fear and asks you to "remember November 5th" (another obvious reference to 9/11). It basically looks to be a reiteration of the modern gripes that much of the left have of the current administration, but magnified about 1,000 times that of reality.

I don't really mind non-conformist films that have a message, I just like them to be artfully done, like Dr. Strangelove or American Psycho. From what I've seen of this film from the trailer, it doesn't look all that subtle or artful.

Bond · 07-23-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

What I took from the trailer was that this is basically a version of Orwell's 1984, but with a violent male superhero protagonist. The "Big Brother" government is obviously meant to be the current united states, with the references to a government that rules through fear and asks you to "remember November 5th" (another obvious reference to 9/11). It basically looks to be a reiteration of the modern gripes that much of the left have of the current administration, but magnified about 1,000 times that of reality.

You do know that V for Vendetta is a book by Alan Moore, right? It is basically a lot like 1984. Germany wins Word War II and the book is set in England which is now ruled by a totalitarian government.

Professor S · 07-23-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

You do know that V for Vendetta is a book by Alan Moore, right? It is basically a lot like 1984. Germany wins Word War II and the book is set in England which is now ruled by a totalitarian government.

No, I didn't know that. But I think its quite easy to see where I got my opinions from when seeing the trailer. For one, no mention of Germany is made, and in fact the text in the trailer says "an uncomprimising look at the future", not "an uncomprimising look at a future that could have happened if the fascists won the big one".

I 've just re-watched the trailer and I have to say that if the trailer reflects the movie, the movie will be aimed squarely at the current administration.

Teuthida · 07-24-2005, 12:52 PM

Gonna have to read it first.

I never read or watched From Hell. How was the transition to film for that? Because I know his The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen didn't turn into such a hot movie.

Ginkasa · 07-24-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danchastu

I never read or watched From Hell. How was the transition to film for that? Because I know his The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen didn't turn into such a hot movie.

I doubt that really matters. This movie is being handled by an entirely different team, so I wouldn't pre-judge it based on previous movies inspired by his books...

/me shrugs and walks away

Professor S · 07-24-2005, 11:45 PM

I'm actually a big fan of Alan Moore. A lot of movies have been based from his works like From Hell, LOEG, Road to Perdition, etc. The one that I am most looking forward to is The Watchmen, a graphic novel that is considered by many to be one of the the form's greatest works. I just hope it doesn't get screwed up.

Xantar · 07-26-2005, 01:09 PM

Don't look now, but the movie is done by the Wachowski Brothers. Hopefully, they will use Alan Moore's original dialogue instead of writing some of their own.

But on the other hand, the movie has Hugo Weaving as V. So it can't be all bad.

P.S. I didn't like Watchmen. It was a mostly good book, but I think it fell a bit short of being the be all end all of superhero comic books as Alan Moore once said he intended it to be.

Teuthida · 03-05-2006, 06:52 PM

Just finished reading V for Vendetta. Great book. I do hope the movie is as good.

TheSlyMoogle · 03-05-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydude

i think this movie will either be really good or really bad...as with the matirx, there won't be an in-between. so far i would say it's looking quite good.

Hopefully it will be really bad so we don't have to suffer through two horrible sequels?

Or hopefully the movie will be really good and they'll just leave it at one, and wont try to come up with some of their own storylines to make a sequel.

Natalie Portman gives me hope for the movie though.

Teuthida · 03-05-2006, 07:13 PM

Well it's based off a 300+ page graphic novel so assuming movie can stick almost exact to it and then be done. Alan Moore separates himself from all the movies based on his work so it's all up to the directors to make it good. If just stick to book should be mighty fine.

Visually Reloaded and Revolutions were fine. Just horrible plot. So they have a good story already for this movie.

EDIT: Apparently Moore hates the script whereas David Lloyd (the artist) likes it. *shrug* But suppose to be most faithful adaptation of a Moore book.

TheSlyMoogle · 03-06-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Teuthida

Well it's based off a 300+ page graphic novel so assuming movie can stick almost exact to it and then be done. Alan Moore separates himself from all the movies based on his work so it's all up to the directors to make it good. If just stick to book should be mighty fine.

Visually Reloaded and Revolutions were fine. Just horrible plot. So they have a good story already for this movie.

EDIT: Apparently Moore hates the script whereas David Lloyd (the artist) likes it. *shrug* But suppose to be most faithful adaptation of a Moore book.

You mean the cheesy DBZ final battle was visually appealing to you? The whole time I thought I was watching an episode of DBZ. I almost walked out when he slammed him into the ground and it caused a crater ala DBZ style. I was like "No they didn't!" but they did.

The sequels just didn't have the awesome that the first had.

But anyway that's a discussion for another thread I suppose.

Teuthida · 03-06-2006, 12:33 AM

Well sticking that fight in there is part of the plot/story/whathaveyou. Meh...don't want to make it look like I thought those two movies were any good....I'll leave that for my Batman Begins bashing.