New Rev Info

Crash · 06-07-2005, 04:22 PM

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Nintendo Discusses Revolution and WiFi
More on game downloads and a new form of networking.
by Anoop Gantayat
June 7, 2005 - Nintendo brought Revolution to the Japanese press for the first time on the morning of the 7th, a few weeks following the system's debut at last month's E3. During the press conference, president Satoru Iwata leaked a few exciting details on what we can look forward to with the system, and also touched upon Nintendo's other plans.

Iwata highlighted a few features of the Revolution. First off, the system is thin, small and doesn't get in the way. It's also quiet and uses little power. Players will be able to get their hands on a controller that's wireless and isn't scary to touch (more hints on the controller, below!).
Regarding the system's backwards compatibility features, Iwata refered to this part of the Revolution as a "Virtual Console." From a technical standpoint, all NES, Super NES and N64 games can work with the system, although it's unclear if every game in Nintendo's tremendous back catalogue will be available.

There's some disappointing news for those expecting these classics to be available for free. Nintendo is planning on pay downloads as being the standard for this download system. There will be many types of services, though, including limited time free downloads. One possibility mentioned by Iwata is free downloads as bonuses for buying new games.

Backwards compatibility for GameCube goes beyond just the software. You'll be able to use all controllers (Wave Bird included), memory cards, the Mario Party microphone, the Dance Dance dance pad and even the Donkey Konga konga controller.The downloads will, as previously announced, be stored in flash memory. You'll be able to store games in the 512 megabytes built into the system, but should this fill up, you can transfer your downloads to an SD memory card and use your computer to manage the files. Iwata didn't elaborate, but did state that copy protection is in place (so don't expect to simply send downloaded game copies to your friends by e-mail).

Nintendo's use of flash memory rather than a hard disk was very much intentional. The company believes that kids as young as five years old will use the Revolution and could damage a built-in hard disk. Additionally, Iwata points to longevity, reliability and cost as being part of the decision to go with flash.

The internal flash memory is being used for a few areas besides the download of game classics. You'll be able to save games to the flash area, update the Revolution's firmware (adding new features along the way, presumably) and download game demos! That's right, Revolution game demos, downloaded right to your Revolution hardware.

Aside from general specifications, three main areas of the system have yet to be revealed: the shape and functionality of the controller, the price and release date and the software lineup. Nintendo has held back on these areas for competitive reasons, but all three will be revealed before the end of the year.

The controller in particular seems to be getting quite a bit of attention, with Nintendo software master Shigeru Miyamoto commenting at the press conference that the company is making a big investment in creating the device. Iwata added, "I think you will be surprised by the Revolution's controller."

Moving away from Revolution (sorry... that's all we have for you!), Iwata spoke a bit about Nintendo's non-console plans. The company's WiFi internet service is coming along, with plans still in place to establish at least 1,000 free access points throughout Japan that will allow DS users to play Online games. In Japan, the company has two Online compatible titles planned for the end of 2005, Mario Kart DS and Animal Forest. These two titles, as well as all Nintendo Online games will have no additional fees for Online play. Twenty-five developers have signed on to support Nintendo's new Online service, although it's unclear if they will all jump on the free service bandwagon.

Almost as interesting is the new type of communication being planned for Nintendogs. Nintendo's dog simulation is already out in Japan and is one of the hottest games around (outside of Nintendo's own Otona no DS Training game). Starting 6/21, Nintendo will begin opening up special areas in train stations and shops where Nintendogs owners will be able to walk around with their DS flaps closed and have their Nintendogs cartridges communicate with one another automatically, trading dog data.

Iwata also pointed to a few sales trends for recent NDS titles. Nintendogs, the DS's biggest hit since launch, has sold over 40% of its copies to female players -- almost double what normal DS games sell. Meanwhile, the adult-oriented Otona no DS Training has sold well with older gamers, and is also performing better than usual amongst ladies. Nintendo, incidentally, refers to both titles as being part of its "Touch Generations" series of games that bring new players to videogames. The series continues later this month with two more titles.

The Revolution, Iwata revealed at the press conference, will actually feature simple titles like Otona no DS Training. But don't worry -- you'll also get big, epic titles like Zelda.

from IGN

DarkMaster · 06-07-2005, 04:30 PM

So is there going to be a SpaceWorld or what?

DeathsHand · 06-07-2005, 05:21 PM

New Rev info? I didn't see anything really new there...

Except confirmation that the downloads won't be free, and that to me seemed fairly obvious from the start...

I'm still waiting to hear pricing details...

Dyne · 06-07-2005, 06:00 PM

Quit teasing about the controller, Iwata! Damn.

Typhoid · 06-07-2005, 06:02 PM

I say the controller with either be a spherical object with buttons all the way around it...or it will be some sort of shape shifting tiger.

Dark Samurai · 06-07-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne

Quit teasing about the controller, Iwata! Damn.

Agreed...

Solid Snake · 06-07-2005, 06:55 PM

No news I didn't already know, and I thoght they already said you would have to pay to download games.

Jonbo298 · 06-07-2005, 07:22 PM

If there is an unlimited play/unlimited download option, I'm taking it no matter what. Unless its like $70 a month but Nintendo isnt that damn stupid

Oh, and them using copy protecion to prevent copy of games to PC, etc..That will be cracked within a month or 2 of it going out. So everyone, just wait it out. You will get access to the games for free eventually

Crash · 06-07-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Oh, and them using copy protecion to prevent copy of games to PC, etc..That will be cracked within a month or 2 of it going out. So everyone, just wait it out. You will get access to the games for free eventually

just what I was thinking.....and SD card should make it fairly easy for them to do it.

MuGen · 06-08-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298

If there is an unlimited play/unlimited download option, I'm taking it no matter what. Unless its like $70 a month but Nintendo isnt that damn stupid

Oh, and them using copy protecion to prevent copy of games to PC, etc..That will be cracked within a month or 2 of it going out. So everyone, just wait it out. You will get access to the games for free eventually

they are free already............get an output cable to your tv and play computer emulators on your shiny new 15" Sharp HDTV.

Null · 06-08-2005, 12:16 PM

whats interesting, is i bet you'll see soon that people find a way to store the emulators that you can already download onto the mem card for the new console, thereby getting all the games for free. im willing to be the roms the new console will use arent THAT different.

Jonbo298 · 06-08-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony

they are free already............get an output cable to your tv and play computer emulators on your shiny new 15" Sharp HDTV.

Naw, the way things are rigth now in my life, thats not possible. Maybe someday but unless you can find me something that I can hook my NES/SNES/N64 AND GC controller to computer at once and just switch between them, I'm gonna wait it out. Nintendo may throw in perks for doing this so im gonna wait. I dont care

Null · 06-08-2005, 11:03 PM

actually i think you can do that. i've seen some multi controller adapters before, hook up to USB and have a box with multiple controller plugs on it. just dont ask me where i saw em. lol

Acebot44 · 07-12-2005, 01:10 PM

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Aparently, Nintendo will be dumbing down their controller. Good idea? I dunno, I like being able to have a lot of options for what my characters can do in games and that usually means more buttons....unless Nintendo's revoluntion is that the game will be controlled some other way.

Jonbo298 · 07-12-2005, 01:54 PM

It's nice Nintendo is thinking outside hte box but I think they are killing themselves on purpose.

Too many buttons? WTF does that mean? My mom's 4 or 5 year old has been playing PS2 games for awhile now and I've never heard him complain 'Theres too many buttons'. Iwata is starting to pull BS out of his ass like the former president was. I figured Nintendo would get a fresh start with a new president but it seems like he's being brainwashed in the same matter