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04-19-2005, 10:31 PM
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A. Naef, 1916b
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No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=58675
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Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will go on show at the event, but reports from Japan say the Nintendo Revolution will remain under wraps. There'll be a few rolling demos of games currently in development, but no console and no revolutionary controller on display.
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Die Nintendo...just die.
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So why the decision to stay out of the limelight? Well, it seems that Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata is worried about rivals nicking all his best ideas at this early stage. That's how revolutionary the new console is, apparently... and also the exact same line Nintendo used to avoid showing Mario 128 at a previous E3.
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Nintendo is really really pissing me off. If BOTH Microsoft and Sony are unveiling their consoles why would Nintendo even have the slightest ounce of fear that their idea might be stolen? The systems are final. Would Sony really say "Ooh, Nintendo has a good idea there. Let's modify PS3 while the press takes a bathroom break." And Mario 128 better be f*cking amazing to keep it under wraps for so many years. If it's another waterpack I'm gonna drown some puppies...does Nintendogs have that as an option?
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So what exactly can we expect to see on the Nintendo stand? Well, most of the space will be devoted to promoting the new Nintendo Online service. It'll be demonstrated using the DS, and it's thought that the Revolution could have a wireless router capability for hooking up the handheld to the internet. All this will be explained at the publisher's May 17 conference.
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Well, I suppose this is a step up from a focus on connectivity. I still have nightmares from those times. Only some warm milk and the soothing sounds of Animal Crossing jibberish can allow me to fall back to sleep once more.
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Other stuff on show will include the new Zelda game - we're promised that a playable demo will be available. Plus Pokémon XD for GameCube, Emerald for GBA and Diamond and Pearl for DS - the latter two featuring online functionality.
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Nintendo breaks promises...and dreams...and hopes... They wanna be so damn innovative yet they release Pokémon game after Pokémon game with hardly any upgrades (and those that are there suck...they just do...really.) They milk and milk and milk (Mario in NBA Street is a sign of the apocalypse) and then say something completely different. What Nintendo does, and what comes out of Iwata's mouth do not correspond.
No one gives a damn about Revolution...and fewer even know about it. Does Nintendo just expect to unveil it a year after Microsoft and Sony show theirs...and months after Xbox 360 is out on the market? How long will the shrooms inhibit their judgement? Has anyone seen one non-gaming news media source that even gives a hint that Nintendo has something coming? A year ago they shrugged it off that Nintendo would have something. Now, nada. Who cares? Just poor saps like myself...
*Yamauchi is seen dangling puppet strings in a darkened room...laughing...oh how he laughs...
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04-19-2005, 10:52 PM
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Or should I say.. smanger
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
If the whole "no-line" scheme for the DS turns out well, I will still be happy.
And Zelda! Oh, Zelda. Zelda will be orgasmic in it's own right.
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04-19-2005, 10:55 PM
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A. Naef, 1916b
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
^ That's how they manage to keep loyal customers. Bang out a Zelda game every couple of years. If they don't screw that up they'll live forever... To make a Batman reference: Nintendo is Ra's Al Ghul, and Zelda is the Lazarus Pit.
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04-19-2005, 10:57 PM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nintendo is going to be out of the console business within the next two generations. Maybe three. MAYBE. Nintendo is so f*cking stupid, their tactics are moronic....here is this great company with loads of potential, and here they are sitting in hot water, again.
Unless of course the Revolution really is a revolution, and the controller is the greatest thing to grasp besides my wang. And Nintendo regains its third party support. Then I'll be blown away, and proven wrong, regarding Nintendo anyway, for the first time in a long while.
Still...playable Zelda demo at E3 and DS games....can't really ask for much more. And what with the new Microsoft and Sony consoles there, one really shouldn't be complaining. Not that it matters much to me, I doubt I'll be picking up a next-gen console, not for a while anyway.
Still, you can't force a revolution. I've stood by Nintendo for a while, and I've put up with a lot of their crap, and this move doesn't totally surprise me, but most anticipation leads to disapointment. *coughdoom3cough* *coughhalo2cough*
I just pity the poor Nintendo fans, especially the ones waiting with their wallets open, waiting to get a piece of the "revolutionary" revolution. Nintendo needs to get with the program, because they really only have one or two more punches left before they turn into Sega, or get bought out by big brother Sony or Microsoft.
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04-20-2005, 12:36 AM
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This a good move for Nintendo. They haven't finished constructing the Revolution let alone the prototype. And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay. In fact, I think its safe to say that if Project Revolution and DS were both present at this E3, tumbleweeds and the sound of crickets would be present at both the Playstation and Xbox stations.
Fellow gamers, take the path less traveled and see the innovation behind Nintendo's decision. An honorable company has turned down the flash of media and fame in order to bring a more satisfying and quality product to it loyal followers.
Sure, Microsoft's online system is likely to entertain for a year or two. And Sony's PS3 will appease those looking for some visual pleasure during a rainy day.
But can you look an adult in the eyes and tell them with a golden sincerity that in 18 years when you bring that system out of it's dusty box, that a smile a mile wide and flood of marvellous memories will resurface to your face, heart, and mind?
No. You can't.
And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.
GTA 4, Halo, San Andreas, Splinter Cell...these complex heaps of flashy code can never top the simple and pure joy of booting up the 1986 Legend of Zelda or Super Mario Bros.
If there is one fact of time that leaves no room for argument or speculation, it's that history repeats itself. The wonders and awe that NES blessed us with have been passed down from new console to new console.
Do not allow the clouds of temptation and deception that PS2 and Xbox have cast upon us to cause you to question your faith in the glorious light of Nintendo. The Gamecube was no less a wonder than its forefathers. Its shining asset, innovation, was largely tainted and rejected due to the illusions projected by competing consoles.
Graphics alone cannot serve as a foundation for games. Our more easily swayed gamers will realize this in the coming generation. As Sony and Microsoft continue to pump out their picturesque features, gamers will be left feeling hungry for something more. Something heartfelt. Something with a soul. Project Revolution will be the resolution to their empty voids. Gamers will once again join their hands together in unity under one sun. Competitors who desired nothing more than money and fame will be forced to retire in the shadows of shame and greed.
I look forward to joining together with all of you on this day of celebration as we welcome in our new shepherd, especially those who will finally be coming back home to rejoin the herd from which you strayed years ago.
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04-20-2005, 12:44 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
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GTA 4, Halo, San Andreas, Splinter Cell...these complex heaps of flashy code can never top the simple and pure joy of booting up the 1986 Legend of Zelda or Super Mario Bros.
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If you like old games, play old games. New "old" games should not be made. New games should be made. A new Zelda will not be like the 1986 Zelda.
I'm sorry man... I've heard you say some crazy stuff, but I believe you're serious on this one.  .
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04-20-2005, 01:10 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
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If you like old games, play old games. New "old" games should not be made. New games should be made. A new Zelda will not be like the 1986 Zelda.
I'm sorry man... I've heard you say some crazy stuff, but I believe you're serious on this one.  .
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While the market should never be overrun with new games made to play like their oldschool counterparts, there should be room for one to pop up now and then...
Contra: Shattered Soldier, Gradius V... 2 good examples of how a game can still follow the simple oldschool gameplay with a nice facelift and still be a good, new experience... But they're really the only two I can think of that have been released recently... And they were both made by Konami
Anywho, Revolution not at E3... I think anyway you slice it, it's not positive for Nintendo or their anxious fans... Although I don't think it necesarily dooms Nintendo and their new console...
I think next-gen will go much like this one, but with Microsoft possibly taking quite a bit more of Sony's marketshare (in the US at least)... And Nintendo back in third with another console that will probably still be more successul than Xbox2 in Japan, and fans will eat up and enjoy...
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04-20-2005, 02:30 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
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And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.
Graphics alone cannot serve as a foundation for games.
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04-20-2005, 03:21 AM
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I don't think Nintendo doesn't want to reveal it because they're afraid others might steal it, but because they haven't finished their concept. Possibly haven't even picked one, like some months ago.

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04-20-2005, 07:49 AM
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^ That's how they manage to keep loyal customers. Bang out a Zelda game every couple of years. If they don't screw that up they'll live forever... To make a Batman reference: Nintendo is Ra's Al Ghul, and Zelda is the Lazarus Pit.
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04-20-2005, 09:22 AM
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yea. Nintendo is, and has been for some time, really really bad at the public relations. they dont give people what they want, they dont tell em what they want to hear, they hide everything for no reason. and every year after year its the same thing. 'we dont want others to steal our ideas' was there anything on the GC that others might have wanted to steal?? i see no reason why they couldnt of displayed that when the others were displayed at the beginning of this gen. now we're at it again.
And honestly, the most innovative thing i've seen for the next gen, which may or may not be true, is the possibility of the MS controller having a track ball. and if that is the real MS controller, and it is indeed a trackball, then hats off to MS for having the balls to show people. at an E3 thats going to be exploding with new things and excitment, nintendos going to show DS and other things we've seen before. Way to go nintendo!
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04-20-2005, 10:25 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
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And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.
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What in the hell are you talking about? A "heart"? Is this suppose to be something that makes good games? Or do you have to invent a reason to continue worshipping a company?
You haven't even seen the new systems yet, and already you're praising Nintendo for next gen. You can't get anymore blind and biased than that.
Instead of trying to convert people to your idiotic Nintendo religion, how about you set an example and show that you are actually capable of a rational thought.
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04-20-2005, 10:53 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
Well, one thing that I've learned from Nintendo is, Patience, and patience is what I and many other Nintendo loyalists have. I believe that if you cant wait, then go somewhere else, as I'm sure most of the posters here have...
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04-20-2005, 11:14 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
I would like nothing more than to join in on this parade. But I'm going to save it for when Nintendo actually DOES go out of business.
Nothing about their consoles or games are bad in a sense, but they truely are letting a lot of fans down by keeping the Revolution from an unveiling. Not only will they lose interest of fans, but they will lose hold as well.
I do believe Nintendo will resort to being just a handheld company. The only place Nintendo has a real strong hold of is Japan, because obviously their only competitor their is Sony.
But we live in NA and right now, Nintendo isn't doing a good job of anything really. Zelda games will always satisfy the Ningamer, but at some point HYPE is a good thing, and when you don't hype up your next-gen... people will turn to Xbox 360 and PS3....
Only a few people like GM and loyalists will follow Nintendo in their revelation, and it's not a bad thing... loyalty is always good, but Nintendo will slowly but surely lose a chunk of their fanbase, and only a few will remain only to be disappointed by what THEY call a Revolution of a console.
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04-20-2005, 11:21 AM
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Re: No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)
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Well, one thing that I've learned from Nintendo is, Patience, and patience is what I and many other Nintendo loyalists have. I believe that if you cant wait, then go somewhere else, as I'm sure most of the posters here have...
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i agree that to love nintendo is to have patience. patience for promises that never come. they keep you waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and if what your waiting for ever does come. it something that has been out already for a while if you just opened your eyes and looked elsewhere.
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