[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Xantar

So right from the beginning, you decided to not outline your position and just tell us that lots of people spout bull**** (and by implication, Michael Moore's yellow journalism is okay)?

Look, I don't know if you realize it, but gun control is beside the point in this debate. We're talking about Michael Moore, not guns. The Strangler has already said that he sees some validity in Michael Moore's argument but that nonetheless he wants an argument grounded in reality.

So if you think you disagree with me on whether guns should be banned or whether there should be tougher laws, don't. Unless you've seen my posts from a few years ago, you don't even know what my position on gun control. But I'll tell you right now that I don't exactly share The Strangler's position on gun control. And moreover, we most certainly don't belong to the same party as you seem to imply.

So what is it you disagree with us about? Do you disagree about whether Michael Moore is lying? Or do you disagree about whether it's acceptable?

What exactly do you believe?

I'm looking back through your posts, and all I see is you continually repeating, more or less, that everyone lies. You never attempt to, for example, refute The Strangler's argument that Michael Moore shouldn't be trusted. In other words, all you've been doing is evading the issue. And that is why I accused you of being willfully blind. I can't think of another reason you would refuse so consistently to just debate with The Strangler about what he's actually talking about.

Post another retort and it'll be your 5000th post.