[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Random

Nice "little" intro you got going there, I suppose. But to answer your questions... Yes, I've dreamed; no I don't remember them all; my dreams don’t mean anything (more on that later); they don’t foresee the future or other events that I’m unrelated to; we’re not mad to attempt figuring out our dreams; and it’s not a waste to spend 1/3 of our lives in bed “wasting away”. ... Whew

My entire point of the essay was to prove that we were not wasting our time sleeping.

The dreams that I usually remember are ones that are interrupted. For instance, a few nights ago I had a dream about a classmate (though she was imaginary) who had her eye on me very often (which is a good thing). Yes, yes… all a dream. I quite possibly have had similar dreams on numerous occasions... but all were “deleted” after being produced, because they were very similar to the school plague known as “busy work”. The reason why I remember my dream from a couple nights ago is that I fell asleep late, which put me in a deep sleep. And, come time I needed to wake to go to school, I kept sleeping because my body was in mid-dream. I eventually broke from the dream and woke up late... but I doubt I would have remembered it, had I not been “half-awoken”.

That is perfectly logical, science has proven that when you wake up in the middle of REM, you are much more likely to remember your dreams.

I’m not dreaming right now. Dreaming, I believe, has a definition that does not allow active memory. In what I would call dreams, I see myself in third person! I can watch myself move around as though I was playing myself as a game... and I’m sure many others can do the same. Also in dreams, I cannot remember events from previous days. If you want me to prove I’m not dreaming, I’ll have to ask you... do you feel pain? If so, why don’t I already know it? Your response may, by your reasoning, be produced by my “dream”, but you - knowing that I did ask you, and am thinking about the same oddity - must realize that we cannot be possibly “dual dreaming”. That is, either you or I am dreaming. If you are dreaming this, I am not. And if that is true, I am not dreaming this, proven. But on a side note, I know this is not a dream based on previous dreaming experiences, and I do not feel like further proving a point for philosophy’s sake.

Oh yeah, and I can tell my dream life apart from my non-dream life. Unfortunately, it is only after I wake up. Until then I could be using the “attack command” all I want, and investigating dumpsters ‘till morning come, and I won’t realize it’s a dream world. A sort of protection from me waking up mid-dream, I believe. Why do I remember the dream, and why do I remember not being aware of my unconscious state? Because I was awoken in the middle of it… which made me fail to “delete” the memory of it.

Absurd. You claim youve never had a dream like this and you cant remember over half of them. How in the world do you know youve never had a dream like this and just forgotten it? You could have dreamed this dream a million times and never remembered it. And there is no way to know whether this is your dream, my dream, or reality.

You don’t really believe it though, you just think it would be a good idea for a fan fic, or even an animé (which I’d have to agree, I suppose). But if you really did believe it... I’d say you have a big problem on your hands. That is, believing that “little chemicals in your mind” can produce realities is a bit absurd. Your mind stores (and yes, I’m stopping halfway in my sentence you let you know that this is what I believe) memory so that it can read it later. Your mind can produce the memory, it’s proven by the fact that you remember things that you have previously not remembered (and what’s funny is... you remember what you used to not remember!). All data that your mind takes in is instantly turned into memory so that you don’t forget anything, no matter how small. Because if you forget just anything, you may forget you’re skydiving, or something stupid like that. The mind is always “on” as a safety precaution. Now, you know that your mind can produce data. It produces it every day as a way to remember what you saw. Yet, that’s not the only way your mind can produce data. Like I said before, when dreaming... your mind is staying active. Because there is nothing to base its newly made data on, it “improvises”. Just because your mind exercises, doesn’t mean your mind (which produces data) can therefor manifest worlds. If that were even somehow true, what would happen to the dreams that are “deleted” as I had once mentioned? Would you have created a world and exterminated it... and then forgot it? The theory is broken, that’s what I’m pointing out

Im not really going to try to defend this. That part of the essay wasnt based on facts, and I dont believe them myself. But you cant completely destroy something. For example, you cant remember someones phone number to save your life. It doesnt mean that it was deleted, because you could remember it in a few hours. If everytime you couldnt remember something it meant it was completly removed, than things would be very different. The brains not as clockwork and physical as your making it out to be. Its pretty chaotic in there.