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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Who says there has to be a good reason to hate a team first of all? It's a damn sports team, people can hate them for whatever reason they want.

I never said there weren't people who hate the Lakers because it's all Kobe and Shaq, I said there weren't any HERE in this thread that you replied to. Thanks for putting words in my mouth on why I think they're cocky... How about because every interview I ever see with Kobe, Shaq, Fox, etc. they're acting, you know, COCKY AS HELL? The way they act and talk comes across as very cocky to me, and a lot of other people.

Exactly what do you mean by "cocky as hell"? Do you mean they have an attitude towards the game? Honestly Chris, look at all the players of the NBA, or just Basketball in general, they all have an attitude. Sometimes having a attitude is part of the game. They all show off, they all act like that during interviews, they all have their own personalities. Jordan was like that, Iverson is like that, and so is Kobe.

My team that I play for along with other schools are all like that. Everytime we play rival schools, people act cocky as hell. It's in the game, remember Rodman? Even if their main concern is to win the game, players also want to play their best to be the best. If you hate them for that, then fine, but almost every player you see in a basketball game acts that way.

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo

Not everyone's the same as you. I follow hockey more closely than I do basketball, and the Dallas Stars beat the Oilers in the play-offs every damn year. You're telling me this isn't a reason to hate them? I think hating a team because they were unstoppable for 3 years is a GREAT reason to hate them. Should we all love a team that continues to beat our favourite teams and win championships every year?

I don't watch hockey like you do, but I do see your point. But if you hate the Lakers because of that, then that's fine. Hate them, that's not a bad reason since you want your team to win and the Lakers always beat them.

During the Jordan era, I loved the Bulls. Even if they won Lakers every year, I respected Jordan and the rest of the team. But just like you, I did get a little annoyed since my favorite team (the Lakers) weren't able to win because of the Bulls. But that didn't make me hate the Bulls, it just meant the Lakers weren't that good back then, they had to get better and play harder in order to beat Chicago. That's just me...

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo

I actually didn't even notice you were new around here, I figured you've been here for a long time actually. I would have said the same thing to someone who has been here since the beginning though anyways... You never told anyone who to like or dislike, but you're telling people why they shouldn't dislike a team. Maybe I'm the only one, but (even though there are other reasons imo) does anyone else find that hating a team because they win all the damn time is a good enough reason to hate a team?

Still, I know if you were in my position, and someone told you who the **** you think you are, that's pretty annoying. But whatever, this is sports, if the Lakers always win teams you don't really pay attention to, then that's not a good reason to hate them, but if the Lakers always win your favorite team, then yes, I guess that's a really good reason to hate them.

Originally posted by TheGame
lol... you want a reason for me disliking the Lakers? well, there are two main reasons:

1) I don't like Phil Jackson, he is the cokiest coach in the NBA and his attitude is rubbing off on his players.

2) Lakers fans are the most ignorant, cocky, uneducated fans on the face of the earth. I live in Cali and I see them and talk to them every day, I want lakers to lose so I can shove it straight up thier asses.

Another reason I don't really like the Lakers is because they use lame excuses to make up for thier regular season preformance... I couldn't stand when LA fans said Lakers didn't have to (aand aren't trying to) work hard in the regular season to win a championship... I think that's either BS on the fans part, or a terrible reflection of the players on the Laker's team if they aren't trying.

Also, the comparisions to the Bulls... that really pissed me off. Bulls worked thier asses off 100+ games per season, and Lakers may have... they are either 1) like I said before, being half assed in the regular season, which is enough to make me hate any team.. or 2) simply not as good... I don't know how Lakers fans can even fix thier mouths to say that LA is better than Jordan's Bulls.

This is why I hate the Lakers, and the only thing I hate more than the Lakers is thier fans. (even though my best friend is a Lakers fan in general I hate them)

1) Your first reason, I disagree. As much as you hate Phil Jackson, you have to admit, he is an amazing coach.

2) As for your second reason, you have a very good point. I agree with that. But I am a Laker fan, and when I see some of my friends bash the Lakers and always talk about how "awesome" the 76ers are (I am not saying they're a bad team), it makes me dislike them a bit. Friends and annoying ass fans are probably one of the biggest reasons why some people hate some teams. But that's how it is, if you have been a Lakers fan since birth, then you can't blame the fan for always talking about them and loving them.

The lame excuses is what every fan says... But the Lakers did do bad at the begining of this seasons' starting. I admit, but there are times when some teams care less if they win a small season game against an average team they usually play against. Sometimes even basketball stars can be lazy and not try, and that goes for every team... =/

Oh, and just for the record, I don't think the Lakers are "better" than the old Bulls. I don't even think you can compare the two teams. Over 10 years have passed, and without Jordan and the Bulls, basketball would be quite different than what we are seeing today. Michael Jordan brought basketball to a whole new level.