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Originally posted by MiscX
right... clinton never preached nationalism.... sure. are you saying he never said that this was a great nation?
also, i DID check my definition of declaring war, and I am quite correct, even if it is the "technical" meaning. and like you said, we didn't declare war on afghanistan. we had troops there but it wasn't in order to attack the nation, it was in pursuit of terrorists. big difference.
people still wouldn't have waved the flags and acted patriotically if they truly didn't care, btw. but there are millions of people here who DO care, so they did.
also, as a rule of thumb, avoid making generalizations like "no one wanted to go into vietnam" because that's cutting out a lot of people who felt perhaps we should.
also, don't put words into my mouth. i never said one person couldn't get us into a war, because sure, that might be possible. i said one person can't destroy this country, and there's no way in hell you can prove me wrong there so stop twisting my words to make it so you can.
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There's a big difference between saying this is a great nation and preaching nationalism. You obviously don't get that.
And I guess it's too hard for you to understand that putting troops on foreign land is an act of war. Iran hit it on the spot, we can't just send troops into their country unless we plan to fight their country. Do you really think we'd let Iraq send their troops into the US if they were only after a few terrorists living in the US? Congress doesn't have to declare war, and we don't need to declare war to fight a war.
Have you listened to LBJ's tapes? Not one advisor wanted us into Vietnam. LBJ was the only person who wanted to go there, and that's why we went. I'm not talking some one on the street wanted to go, I mean none of his advisors, none of the high ranking officials in this country wanted to go to Vietnam.
Twisting your words? First of all, I don't give a ****. Second, you did say "the president doesn't declare war, CONGRESS does." So you never said one person couldn't get us into a war? Like hell you didn't.
And DsH got that right. I always do that, that's why everyone loves me
