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Old 02-10-2002, 01:59 AM   #174
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And the point of all this is...?

"Sure"

I am assuming you're being sarcastic, and doubt the abilty of someone of scientific mind to doubt the theory of gravitation. Well it's already been shown that gravitation doesn't work when the scales are very large or very small. Hence people were scetical when it came to gravity.

If they weren't sceptical, quantum mechanics would never have been developed. If they had just accepted gravitation as being true, no-one would have bothered looking into it.

Similary, if everyione had just accepted the bible as the literal truth I wonder where we'd be.

"Repeat this answer, and talk to me as if I were a 5 year old"

I fail to see the reasons for your petulancy. Why do I have to have a directly apploicab;e and quantifiable personal experience (at least, this is what I assume you're asking for) for every single thing I believe? I merely look at evidence, either at first hand within my field, or second hand within the fields I know too little about.

"Funny, last time I checked I wasn't trying to prove god's existance"

But he's saying that if you do, you deny him.

"I'm not trying to prove God exists
It can be proven..."

In which case, you deny him. I think the quote goes: God says I refuse to prove I exist, for proof debies faith and wthout faith I am nothing. Then he does something which proves he exists, therefore by definition he doesn't. QED.

I'd like to see you prove it scientifically though... i.e. to other people, and not just yourself. In the scientific community, anecdotal evidence isn't acceptable.

"but the person has to be willing to take steps him/herself"

Well, I've done this backwards. I believed once, I don't any more. My findings ion the world of science are incompatible with my beliefs in a divine deity. And my findings in science make far more sense to me than religion ever did. In fact, you may even call it a revelation.

""The truth is in the eye of the beholder"
if that is true, in my life, God is the truth, period"

In your life, yes. But I thought the dunadan set up this thread in order to ask about MY life...? Again, you are trying to turn this into a debate, and because I am the person I am, I feel obliged to put you right over the things that I believe you to have misconceptions about; namely science in general.

So your all-conclusive and scientifically justifiable fantastic point that will prove me and all other hellbound atheists wrong beyond belief is...? I eagerly await the chance to be able to stop having to think about everything again.
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