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Originally posted by The Strangler
I always love to hear the reasons why the US is getting into this war from those who are against it. The sheer amount of ignorance shown is hilarious.
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I'm against the war because I don't see why it's neccesary, despite your wonderful insight into the danger of Enemies in Possession of Shoeboxes. And yes no doubt you will call me ignorant, blind, stupid etc etc, but I can't see why Iraq poses such a threat compared to other countries which not only
have been thought to have NBC weapons but have also freely admitted to having them. Plenty of those countries don't care much for the US either, what makes Iraq such a threat that there's no alternative but to invade them right away? And before calling me blind and stupid again, please explain exactly why I'm blind and stupid.
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Originally posted by The Strangler
1) War for Oil - Only 20% of US oil comes from the Middle East and none of that comes from Iraq. Compared to the rest of the world, US oil is dirt cheap. So I guess by your theory Canada and France would be at the forefront of this war... oh wait, they;re against it. There goes that theory.
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US has also seen oil prices rise sharply recently, as has the rest of the world. Why? It's getting more expensive. Iraq practically floats on the stuff. France doesn't want a war because they have been friendly with Iraq for centuries, and planned to buy their oil and other produce cheaply in return for investment once trade embargoes and been dropped.
The US doesn't have any substantial oil reserves left, and is extremely reluctant to pay extra for the stuff that Saudi pumps out. Hence why it makes more sense just to "find" new reserves to control.
Note that since 1984, US oil consumption has increased over 30%, from about 15 to about 20 million barrels per day. In 1985, only about 4 of the 15 million barrels were imported. Now you import almost 11 out of 20. That is, your total use has increased about 30% but your Middle East imports have increased nearly 200%.
The USA is much more dependent on imported oil that you were in the past, and you're using more oil than you did in the past.
You seem to think France is opposed to this because they are afraid of iraq. You think Canada is afraid of Iraq. You think Germany is afraid of Iraq. If they aren't fighting the big bad Iraq it may just be because they don't see it as the epitome of terror, or they aren't afraid of it if it is.
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Originally posted by The Strangler
2) Oh boy, we Americans sure do love to conquer and oppress people. So there goes that theory too.
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Maybe you can start with Afghanistan. Remember those grandiose promises of democracy and rebuilding? Well, last week Bush sent Karzai home mostly empty-handed. And it seems you're only hanging around Afghanistan in the hope of catching some more of bin Laden's thugs. I don't see much rebuilding of any kind going on, and certainly no financial aid that would do the original promises any justice. What reason is there to think that Iraq will be any different?