LeonMagnolis, the topic is "Why don't you believe in God?"
Then you say "And I am tired of people trying to convince me that there is no God" If you're implying the people who are saying there's no god in this topic is trying to tell you there's no god, then you obviously can't read.
"Then why should we have to prove something right to prove it is real?"
Who says you have to? This is a topic about why we DON'T believe in god, and I'm telling you. You're giving us a lotta crap about odds and what John 3:19 says for no reason. I said "I don't have to prove something wrong to know it's not real." Key word: I
And how exactly could we prove you wrong if we were right? We can't because like I said millions of times before, you'd have to die first. Everything about religion is just so convenient for the people who are arguing in favor of it because there's absolutely nothing we can do to prove it wrong. But ask yourself this: Can you prove there is a god? If so, please prove it to me. You can't. So if I can't prove it wrong, and you can't prove it to be true, then I'll go by logic. And logic says that there isn't an all-powerful being who can control everyone in the world.
And of course there's that question again that NOBODY can answer: Who made god? Does god have a god?
As for your quote "I'm trying to see from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass." thanks for it, I could use it for many religious people.
"Have you ever thought about what the world would be like without religion? Can you even comprehend that?"
Nope, I can't comprehend that... Because it would be too good of a place compared to what we have now. Religion just starts fights, wars, and causes millions of deaths. The attack on the WTC buildings wouldn't have happened if it weren't for religion. WWII? Religion. Should I go on?
"Your senses are fooling you. Space is actually a bright pink zebra with four heads and three hooves on each foot.
Oh it's not? Then prove me otherwise."
What the hell are you trying to say here? I said the universe is all around me... IT IS. It's a fact, if you wanna argue this then you're too stupid to have an opinion on anything anyway. It's also a fact that I don't see god, and neither do you. I don't hear god, and neither do you. I don't feel god's hand helping me when I need help, and neither do you. So if you can't see him, touch him, hear him, then you have no clue if he's real do you? No, you don't. So why do you believe him?
Here's something that I said ealier in this topic: "I don't believe in god because I (as well as pretty much everyone else I know) don't believe in stuff until it can be proven. People use the argument "Well, you can't prove there ISN'T a god, can you?" and I don't have to prove something wrong to know it's not real. Like I said hundreds of times before, if you're going to believe something that can't be scientifically proven just because it makes sense to you and your prayers have come true, then you'd have to try every single religion to see if you were right."
And you seem to like to talk about odds. Well, you never mention that odds of there being a god... And using simple logic, I think you can agree with me that the odds are too horrible to even comprehend. I mean, have you ever seen an all powerful being that can do anything he wants? Have you ever seen someone who just lives in someplace we never see? Have you ever seen someone create millions and millions of people before? I'll assume you answer "no" to the questions, then the odds of there being a god is pretty damn bad. So giving the odds you gave about the science crap, yes, I'd take them odds over the odds of there being a god.
Staying on the topic about odds, what do you think the odds that your religion is right over every other religion? Have you tried every religion? No you haven't, because that's impossible. So the odds of your religion, being right over every other one that you've never even heard of aren't very good, are they?
"Now STFU or GTFO. That pretty much sums up what I have to say about that. If you want to have an opinion about something, at least have some basis...Do you really believe that they were all just "made up" by one man who felt like keeping his "village" in order? As I said before-- think before you post."
This ALWAYS happens when arguing with religious people. You use odds when it's convenient for you, you use logic when it's convenient for you, you use faith when it's convenient for you, you use whatever is convenient for you at the time. Look at this example here. You say that guy had no basis for thinking that some rich guy made up the story about god, yet you read the story out of a book that you don't know who made it. It could have been monkeys that wrote that book for all you know, yet you believe this book. And then you say "Do you really believe that they were all just "made up" by one man who felt like keeping his "village" in order?" So know you're using simple logic, eh? Well do YOU really think that there's such a thing as a superbeing with magical powers?
Just use logic. You can't prove there's god. You can't prove there's ever been something/someone that is at all similar to god. You can't prove there's a heaven or hell. You can't prove there ever was a garden of eden or whatever. You can't find me anyone that can prove that. So using very simple logic, I've come to the conclusion god just isn't real.
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