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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
SF's rant was interesting...to me it sounded like one giant "BAH!" which would seem appropriate to what he was trying to convey.
I'm disappointed with both XBox and Gamecube so far...but that doesn't mean things can't change. For Xbox...Why ignore (maybe that's the wrong word?)
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Well, that defeats the purpose of my entire post, now doesn't it? While it wasn't exactly the topic's exact premise, I am utterly disappointed in both consoles from a retail and expectation standpoint. This is my take:
-Xbox promised online (way back in January 2k1) AT LAUNCH. That didn't happen, and when it did happen a year later, how many games are XboxLive capable? Barely more than PS2's online offering, which is FREE.
-GameCube promised great software, which it does have now, but was only limited to Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball at launch. Yawn.
And that's basically it in a nutshell, Stu. As for my positive assertions, I'll post that when I deem it relevant.
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Halo 2, Fable, Perfect Dark 2, etc. based on the system's past (which you call utterly disappointing, to which many will argue against)? Rare is on board, and they have a past of VERY high quality games. Microsoft is more than likely giving them more of an opportunity to fully utilize their creativity. "The sky's the limit"...well, apparently in Rare's fairly recent past, Nintendo's franchises/restrictions have been the limit. Conker was a step in the right direction (in some areas)...Possibly we'll see some newer, more original ideas?
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Somehow I doubt it. Rare will continue to cash in on their previous franchises, and then maybe it will produce a new product. Right now only 3 projects are confirmed from the team, and all three of them were once GameCube-specific.
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As for Gamecube...it's hard to say. "One man's trash is another man's treasure." To some, many (if not most, if not *gasp* all) of Nintendo's efforts are considered instant classics. Others will disagree completely. I think the problem with the system is that it gets TOO close to limiting the consumer to the Nintendo brand, and the Nintendo brand only. 3rd parties, for the most part, have chosen to unleash their big dawgs on one of the other two systems (Resident Evil being the big exception). If your gaming interests are primarly >NINTENDO<, the system has delivered to a certain extent, and I'm sure will deliver in coming years. Most gamers want more variety (the whole 'mature games' crap has been beaten to death one too many times...I'll stay away from that) in their system.
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We all know that this has actually been an improvement for Nintendo over N64 (GameCube really has had just as many 3rd party releases as Xbox over the course of 2002, and just as many overall titles). And yes, the 'mature games' crap has been beaten to death, and considering how false it is, one can deduce why.

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Luckily, as all gamers will agree, there's something out there for everyone. Be it mostly XBox, mostly Gamecube, mostly PS2 or mostly PC...pick and choose the games that fit your gaming interests, and try not to think much about the ones that don't.
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Hey, you forgot Macintosh and Linux!!! You fanboy!!!
Lol...
At any rate, GCN has proved to be a viable (though not as strong) third-party console, as has Xbox proved to be a viable first-party console (though also not as strong). That's about the only expectations I feel have been met. End rant 2.
-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...