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Originally posted by TheGame
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The reason I wouldn't mind Nintendo stopping is the fact that Nintendo is a great GAME developer... unlike Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo's desire to make profit is taking front seat over thier desire to make great games now-a-days... and it's hurting thier games. So, becoming a 2nd party would make them better.

Ok, I won't go into anything with the quality of nintendo games versus MicroSoft's or sony's because U'm sure I will piss some folks off, but I see where you're coming from with that, but I don't see how making a profit is hurting their games, maybe I'm missing something here.

Has Sega turnd a profit yet? No. They have only failed misserably a beating EA. 3D0 and Atari aren't in Nintendo's leauge as far as quality software.

While, it is true Sega hasn't turned a profit, it really doesn't count since they were losing money before they went 3rd party, if it helps any, they are atleast not going more into debt. And I'm sure it will take some time for them to go above the red again.

like I said before, NIntendo is more worried about profit now-a-days... if they were worried about thier games half as much as thier system they would be able to flop out WAY more quality WAY faster.

Well, I don't think it's far to talk about Nintendo being out for a profit. Nintendo is a game maker and nothing else. Sony and Microsoft has other divisions that could help stomach any loss they made, Nintendo doesn't, they make their money only in the game market so it is important for them to make a profit.

I don't get the last statement, maybe you will rephrase it later.

Err, if There was No Cube, the people who purchased those games woudln't just drop dead. They would own whatever console thier precious Nintendo games are on and they would buy them just like how they are buying then now. The ONLY difference would be that there would be even more people to sell it too... there is no way possible it would sell less.

Well in a way, nintendo could end up dividing it's fanbase, I mean if PS3 would get Mario and xbox 2 get Zelda, I see some Nintendo fans getting pissed at it and not buying either. I mean you can say something that may happen, I could say something that might happen, the simple fact is no one knows for sure. you may say Nintendo fans are loyal, but that was when they could get all the games at one place when they are spread out, it could help or it could hurt. No one knows for sure.

The digital click? LMAO, how many games really utilize that? Xbox's controller has three more buttons than Cube's anyway. Also, if Nintendo worked with MS, they would make an Xbox version of the GBA player.

Well, it is true not many games use the "digital click" and as a whole I do find them pretty useless, but hey maybe Nintendo has something special with it, I doubt it.

O o, I know one game that was done on the Cube that would be a bitch on the Xbox, Animal Crossing, I'm sorry for such a powerful system, why the hell can't it keep time when it's plugged out?

Well, just because it has more buttons doesn't mean it's needed, and what three buttons? The black and white buttons as well as the back button? If you count the "z" button, that would be two more unless I missed a button on my Xbox.

Err... The hard drive gives more room for innovation. That doesn't mean developers are taking advantage of it. Let an innovative developer like Nintendo work with hardware like that... I'm sure they could find more than enouh to work it.

Well, I'm sure their are some features that the hard-drive opens up that wasn't done before, but I'm just not seeing it now. Maybe, Nintendo could work miracles with it, maybe they can't, but who's to say that Nintendo's next console wouldn't have a hard-drive?

[quote][/b]As far as innovation on the home console market? Well, we'll see who's MMORPGs have the most features and the biggest userbases.
Ok how exactly is a MMORPg anything new? I mean it may be the first time it's done on a console, but it's nothing breatakingly new, but maybe that's just me.

The point was.. the userbase is bigger.. not that Pokemon would be an awesome game

the next time you roll your eyes at me, well let's say you don't want to know what I'm gonna do.

Anyhow you say it's a bigger userbase, but how many Ps2ers would care for a PokeMon game, I mean it's not exactly in the audience's big interest is it?

There are many variables that are unpredictable just because something seems so clear cut doesn't mean it is.

Well, Nintendo has the advantage there... but you could have said the same thing before SNES came out... you could have also said Saturn and N64 would have been dominant before Psx came out... You could have said Nintendo will get second place this generation without a doubt until Xbox came out.

You have a point on that, the only difference is the GBA is out already, the Saturn did beat the PSX to the market, but the n64 didn't. The GBA has a loyal fanbase and much like the Ps2 at the moment, the competitors can try and catch up but it's highly unlikely especially with the SP coming out soon.

We can't really predict anything. Nintendo has fallen more times (especially in the US) to newcomers than anybody left in the console manufacturing biz.

that isn't too fair, I mean Nintendo has had more chances to fail then anyone else, and the fact that they continue to slip and remain profitability shows they either know how to squeeze a penny or aren't slipping too much.

[/b]That's because both of the projects were started on N64. Nintendo released those games because of 100% money management.[/b]

Well no one has any proof that Mario Sunshine was started on the n64, many have speculated it was the rumored Super Mario II 2, but no one can be 100% but Nintendo.

As for Animal Crossing, I think it was released (atleast in Japan) to fill in their line-up since they already had the game finished and not many folks got to experience it in Japan due to it's late release. I have no idea why it was released in NA, I mean I highly doubt that it was for money because Nintendo should know that a game with such outdated graphics, a kiddish look and well no real purpose wouldn't have sold too hot (even if it did), I think it was more or less a taste game.

Well, if Ps3 is sticking to it's roots and being backward compatible, why not include a DVD player? I mean... some people's only DVD player is thier Ps2, does Sony want everybody to keep thier Ps2 for the DVD playback?

I'm not saying Sony will not or shouldn't keep a DVD player in the next PlayStation, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be as important of a feature much like the CD player, I mean how many folks talk about that?

I think a DVD player may or may not be a must... but it is an extra feature that makes the system more valuable, any way you look at it. I can't imagine anybody not buying a Ps3 because it includes a DVD player.... but I can imagine people not buying a GCN because it doesn't include a DVD player.

I see what you mean here, and I agree with you on that much, it's better to have than it is not too, but I just don't think it's a must unless everyone else is doing it.

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Well, I wonder how he feels about her recent legal troubles.