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Well in that regard wouldn't it be a better move for any other console maker to stop making consoles? And who's to say someone else won't enter the area, I mean thus far we've had Nintendo enter, then Sega (well they had the MasterSystem, but no one really counts than) then Sony and now MicroSoft.

The reason I wouldn't mind Nintendo stopping is the fact that Nintendo is a great GAME developer... unlike Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo's desire to make profit is taking front seat over thier desire to make great games now-a-days... and it's hurting thier games. So, becoming a 2nd party would make them better.

Well I don't know how exactly going 3rd party could kill a developer, I mean 3D0, Atari and Sega all did it and they don't seem to be dead or the last time I checked.

Has Sega turnd a profit yet? No. They have only failed misserably a beating EA. 3D0 and Atari aren't in Nintendo's leauge as far as quality software.

don't see how working for Microsoft ot Sony will actually improve the quality of the games, I mean if Nintendo is regarded as one of the best developers in the world, how exactly would another team that isn't as well renowed teach them something?

like I said before, NIntendo is more worried about profit now-a-days... if they were worried about thier games half as much as thier system they would be able to flop out WAY more quality WAY faster.

And well, I don't know if that is completely accurate, I mean think about it, PS2/Xbox caters to a different group than Nintendo games. GTA:VC sells millions in no time yet games like Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & clank don't, let Mario and Animal Crossing are able to on the Cube.

Err, if There was No Cube, the people who purchased those games woudln't just drop dead. They would own whatever console thier precious Nintendo games are on and they would buy them just like how they are buying then now. The ONLY difference would be that there would be even more people to sell it too... there is no way possible it would sell less.

They couldn't use their controller, the GBA player or the digital click.

The digital click? LMAO, how many games really utilize that? Xbox's controller has three more buttons than Cube's anyway. Also, if Nintendo worked with MS, they would make an Xbox version of the GBA player.

I know the Xbox has more power and the best to it, but no one really shows how Xbox hardware makes a game more innovative, I mean take Blinx for example, took some features of the Xbox such as the hard-drive and did it improve the game any? does anyone consider it a top platformer of 2002? the next game that will push the hard-drive seems to be Fable unless their are some in between, but eh.

Err... The hard drive gives more room for innovation. That doesn't mean developers are taking advantage of it. Let an innovative developer like Nintendo work with hardware like that... I'm sure they could find more than enouh to work it.

As far as innovation on the home console market? Well, we'll see who's MMORPGs have the most features and the biggest userbases.

How many games sell 5 million on Ps2? How many games sell 5 million period?

Anyhow, how is releasing another PokeMon increasing quality? And heck we don't even know what the hell the GCN PokeMon is like to make any judgements on if having it on Ps2 would have helped.

The point was.. the userbase is bigger.. not that Pokemon would be an awesome game

Well, I think Nintendo has a handle on the handheld market atleast for a few more years

-They are the only ones of the 3 who actually used cartidges before, and CDs aren't too ideal for a handheld console atleast IMO. Well atleast that's what EGM stated.
-Nintendo knows what types of games sell on a handheld. It isn't exactly the same as the console. I mean games like Mario, MegaMan, Sonic and all those others that may "deem" kiddie on the console are much more likely to sell on a console than Driver, GTA 2 or anything else. I mean it's not like they haven't been released to compare

Well, Nintendo has the advantage there... but you could have said the same thing before SNES came out... you could have also said Saturn and N64 would have been dominant before Psx came out... You could have said Nintendo will get second place this generation without a doubt until Xbox came out.

We can't really predict anything. Nintendo has fallen more times (especially in the US) to newcomers than anybody left in the console manufacturing biz.

Why is it that you talk about graphics and Nintendo, I mean if their big games on GCN are any signs, Nintendo doesn't want to push the extreme limits of the console, they want to push the envelope on gameplay. I mean Mario won't win any awards for graphical achievement, Animal Crossing won't be up their for any texturing awards or anything else.

That's because both of the projects were started on N64. Nintendo released those games because of 100% money management.

As for the features, well noo one has any idea what Nintendo, Sony or MicroSoft may or may not include in their next console and if some features will even be needed. I mean with all the folks who own a Ps2 or Xbox, is a DVD player really important anymore? Nintendo has made a quite remarkable wireless controller, will wireless controllers be important next-gen?

Well, if Ps3 is sticking to it's roots and being backward compatible, why not include a DVD player? I mean... some people's only DVD player is thier Ps2, does Sony want everybody to keep thier Ps2 for the DVD playback?

I think a DVD player may or may not be a must... but it is an extra feature that makes the system more valuable, any way you look at it. I can't imagine anybody not buying a Ps3 because it includes a DVD player.... but I can imagine people not buying a GCN because it doesn't include a DVD player.

As for games, it's real hard to judge that now as well. I mean each generation is another fresh start somewhat, so folks can lose support while others can gain support. It's not like any of us are Ms.Cleo are we?

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