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Old 02-06-2002, 12:18 AM   #74
LeonMagnolis
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I don't believe in god because I (as well as pretty much everyone else I know) don't believe in stuff until it can be proven. People use the argument "Well, you can't prove there ISN'T a god, can you?" and I don't have to prove something wrong to know it's not real. Like I said hundreds of times before, if you're going to believe something that can't be scientifically proven just because it makes sense to you and your prayers have come true, then you'd have to try every single religion to see if you were right.
I just want to say that I've looked at many other religions and found flaws-- small things that go wrong. I, myself, am a Christain, and I believe in what I believe because of the facts I know about the Bible and God.

~I know that the Bible has never been wrong. If you compare the origional biblical transcripts with other accepted historical documents, you will find no extraordinary contradictions. Every Biblical city has been located, most every biblical personality has been accounted for in other historical documents, and as far as we know, it contains pure fact. I have yet to see any discovery that mankind has made contradict the bible's teaching.

~I know that the Bible has no in context contradictions in it's origional manuscripts. If you read through the Bible, you will find that in the origional documents, there are no contradictions and no overlaps anywhere. If anyone in here has found one, I'd like to see it-- but aside from that, there are no overlaps.

~I know that the Bible's teachings are invaluable. If anyone would like to debate this, then look in-- leviticus, I believe it was, in the old testiment law. You'll find laws for cleanliness. Take a moment to reflect on the affects that the laws would have on our culture if we followed them today. STD's would be rare, if not nonexistant, Food poisoning would be nearly gone, and this is only the beginning of the benifits.

I haven't tried every religion, but I've studied the bible, Read up on it's backround, compared it with other books, and found it to be the most logical one out there.


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Anyhoo, I think god is jusy a fairy tale that has made it big. I mean, just think about a person who controls everything anybody does and lives in a place we don't know of/can't see. until we're dead... LMAO, when you can find me proof that controlling millions of people is possible, maybe I'll believe it then.

A place that we don't know of? Odd. If you didn't know if it, then how can you speak of it? Just a thought.

Can't see? I can't see air. A simple arguement indeed, but it seems to do the trick. I can see the effects of air, you'll say. But it's simple enough to argue that everything around here is the effect of God's workmanship. Please, think about what you say before you say it.

As for the controlling people-- that is simple. Look at the kings and dictators of this century. Take hitler for example. He controlled a country. If he didn't have control over the people, would they really have let him kill 500,000 jews (I'm not sure about the number). Would they really have let him start a war? He was in control-- No question about it.


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And of course, there's the question who made god? Nobody has ever answered that in a way where it makes any sense at all, so nobody should have a reason to believe he's real.
Who made the universe? Then why should we believe it's real?


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And who's ever seen god? Has anyone ever taken a picture of god?
Answered above..........

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Annnnnnd isn't it convenient that almost everything that has to do with proving god is real happens after you die? Of course nobody can prove he's not real when you say we have to die first to make sure. People have been dead and then came alive before, so couldn't they tell us if they saw god?
You make it sound like it's a conspiricy. And what makes you think that most of the things that have to do with God happen after you die? As far as you know, we all go to Heaven after we die and that's it. Have you read the Bible and tried to understand what it says? If you did, then I'm sure you would realize that God has alot to do with us while we're still in this world.


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But above all: If god wanted me to know he was real, he would do so. He created us all, right? So if he created us, why don't we automatically know he's real? He would have just made it an unarguable fact, like saying wood comes from trees, etc.
And why would he do that? If he WAS real, then what would give you the right to tell him what to do, and what makes you think that you have half a clue of what he would do? Just another thought.



I doubt anyone will read this, but let me leave youall with this thought. It's an age-old thought from a man named Pascal. This is known as Pascal's wager.


"There are four possibilites as to what happens after we die.

1. There is no God and we did not believe in one. We gain nothing.
2. There is no God and we did believe in one. We gain nothing.
3. There is a God and we believed in him. We gain everything.
4. There is a God but we denied him. We lose everything."


Although there are many religions to follow, wouldn't you think it's best to at least choose one? If someone gave you a free lotto ticket, would you just toss it to the side? What if that ticket had the jackpot on it? You don't lose anything by taking it, but if you do toss the ticket, and it's a winner, then you don't get the money-- you lose it.


"Leo"