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Originally posted by gekko
Man, you can twist things around to make it go your way.

Simple philisophy,more games = more sales. EA releases tons of low-quality games in a short period of time. They make money. Get the point?

EA's name alone can make sales, and EA is the biggest third party producer and seller on the market... What is Sega?

EA is at Nintendo's level, they can release crap with the developer name and a licence on it and it will sell... do you REALLY want Sega to become this?

Crazy Taxi and Super Monkey Ball on the sales charts is what people want. Super Monkey Ball was one of the best selling Gamecube games at launch, and it did far better than expected for a game not many people were expecting to be any good. And Crazy Taxi was the 3rd best selling title on Dreamcast, and also had a very sucessful sequel. That's what most companies strive for.

Well you gotta remember, the vast majority of Sega fans don't care that they haven't had a living system in the last 7 years. I guess you must not have realized the huge amount of high quality games that were on Saturn and DC. I would easily trade my Xbox, PS2, and PSX for another DC. Guess what? 50 top-quality titles in 2 yeara and then no more support is better than sitting here with today's systems and get very few quality titles over the course of 5-6 years. Also, don't forget those vast majority of Sega fans are now split up between 3 consoles. Word of mouth is the best way to sell a game, and Sega has that from all of their fans.

Well, this can help Sega, or it can hurt Sega. The Re-hashes of games that sold well on DC will be great for the non-DC owners, but they will suck to DC owners. Like Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, I'm sure that most DC owners didn't buy thet game again... same with Crazy Taxi.

But you are right when it comes to non-DC ports, Sega fans will eat them up just like they did on DC, with a lil added sales for peeps who didn't own DC.

And NCAA 2K3 is a new game, for this coming year. NFL 2K2 has been out for almost a year now. You are making no sense at all. NFL 2K2 isn't a new game, it was out on DC a long ass time ago.

NCAA 2k2 was on Dreamcast... this is it's second installment, and it's first didn't sell well on DC.

And don't even get me started on Panzer Dragoon. People have been wanting this game for years. Don't try to say it's not a marketable game. And Soccer Slam is the only arcade soccer game out right now, so why not release it? Let's put it this way, Sega isn't going to make any more money releasing Soccer Slam in 5 years, as they will releasing it now.

In 5 years GCN, X-Box, and Ps2 will have bigger userbases, and Sega will have a mch bigger name on the third party ticket... Soccer Slam would sell MUCH better if they waited to release it, period.

And Sega has the ability to release all these games at one time, because they own tons of development studios which are always working on games. And let's just remember how many no-name games EA has, and how many never really sell a ton. You seem to have some twisted idea that by Sega becoming really popular making Sonic games, all of a sudden Beach Spikers will sell like crazy. It doesn't work that way. You need to put the game on the market, and if people like it, they will buy the next game. EA has tons of established franchises like Madden, but that didn't help them sell Simpsons' Road Rage at all, did it?

LOL, first of all, I'm not doubting Sega' ability to release all these games, just like I wouldn't doubt Konami's or Capcom's ability... but why release them all if they have better potiential sales in the future? Sega isn't an established third party with games that Nintendo or Sony gamers have been buying for years... are they?

Second of all, Madden didn't help sell road rage, but Madden (along side Fifa) helped NBA Live, NHL, NCAA Football, and March Madness become huge franchises... Madden's old success is the ONLY reason EA is the biggest third party developer, so each and every sale EA gets is owed to Madden.

Square and Nintendo are pretty much the only companies that sell on name alone. And guess what? They all make the same games over and over again. Square always makes RPGs, so people assume the new one will be good. Nintendo, well, they have established franchises in a few genres, but you rarely see them step out of that, like with Conker, and it didn't sell that well.

Nice generalization.

As for Bond, yes, the name sells. Not to me however, cause the second it went from Rare to EA, i didn't think "Wow, EA, I'll buy it" like this thread tends to believe, I was doubting the whole Bond series. Didn't think EA would make nearly as good of game as Goldeneye, and they didn't. But let's not forget, Jet Set Radio was popular, but not one of the all-time best sellers. The sequel was released on one console. super Monkey Ball was a game most doubted, and was released on one console. And Crazy Taxi, you're talking about a port of a game that's already years old, with no new features. Hell, it already had a sequel and a few spin-offs before that. If you compare Crazy Taxi as a whole, DC and ports, it killed Bond.

The problem is... Sega can't compare to EA as far as sales, period. JSRF didn't get as popular as you think, Monkey Ball was released on the system with the weakest launch, of course it will get sales, nothing near the word "good". Crazy Taxi is a joke.

Not only that, I'd buy Bond over any of those games, JSRF is the closest thing to bond, and it still didn't out-sell bond.

Well first of all, Sega has no games on N64 or PSX. Second, they have only released a few titles, none of which were exver expected to be multi-million sellers. EA has been there since the start, Sega hasn't even had time to release their entire Sega Sports lineup on these consoles yet. Give them time. Rez, Gun Valkyrie, don't tell me you expected much from these.

I expect Sega to build up as a developer, and not just walk in like they are #1 before they even get a name.

I expect a lot in terms of quality (which Sega has yet to deliver). but to me some of the games Sega releases are just a waist of time.