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Originally Posted by Thespis721
I think what REALLY this whole thing comes down to is that the video game industry thought it was invincible to a WORLD WIDE ECONOMIC RECESSION/DEPRESSION.
All they are saying is that they didn't sell to meet their "expectations". How they come about those "expectations" is beyond me but I'm sure whatever they are, they assume they are going to do BETTER then the previous year regardless of analysis.
But especially since Nintendo wasn't mentioned, these are premium games at a luxury price. When 2 out of every 10 Americans is out of work, you can't expect to have as much selling. Everyone is saving up for MW2.
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I think Pachter did a pretty decent job at answering that.
Its not so much that expectations changed as much as it is, the goal post for success got pushed back further. Just looking at the top 10 games of all time.
Roughly back at the end of 07/08 this is what the top 10 games of all time looked like
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1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (2004) - 9.4 million
2. Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock (2007) - 8.2 million
3. Madden NFL 07 (2006) - 7.7 million
4. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (2002) - 7.3 million
5. Madden NFL 06 (2005) - 6.65 million
6. Halo 2 (2004) - 6.61 million
7. Madden NFL 08 (2007) - 6.6 million
8. Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007) - 6.25 million
9. Grand Theft Auto 3 (2001) - 6.2 million
10. Madden NFL 2005 (2004) - 6.1 million
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Top selling game was just under 10 million, lowest selling game was just under 10 million.
And now you have the current list,
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1. Wii Play
2. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
4. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
5. Wii Fit
6. Mario Kart w/ Wheel
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
8. Madden NFL '07
9. Call of Duty: World at War
10. Namco Museum
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Hmm trying to find Wii Play LTD, but don't have off hand, but the number 4 game is MW 2 and that is at 8.82 million and Madden is at 7.7 at least from the prior list.
Which means that there have been a ton of HUGE selling games this generation. I believe the first generation with multiple 20 million selling games.
But you'll also notice that the list is pretty much just EA, Activision and Nintendo. So the spread isn't really even for all, and they are all looking for that one mega hit.
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Originally Posted by Angrist
I wasn't talking about Nintendo vs. PS360. I was talking about cloning succesful PS360 games vs. cloning succesful Wii games.
Modern Warfare sells millions --> we get hands full of MW clones.
Mario sells millions --> where are the Mario clones?
They seem to ignore this topic. Perhaps it's because Nintendo franchises are hard to clone because of character fame?
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You'll get one camp that says people have tried to mimic what made the Wii a success because there are a ton of mini-game comps and fitness games, but I agree.
People always point to Wii Play/Sports/Fit as the reason the Wii does so well. When stuff like Smash, NSMBW, Mario Kart and galaxy do EXTREMELY well.
But sure they will get into 3rd party lack of success on the Wii sooner or later.