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Originally Posted by BreakABone
The thing I don't get is why cant the two ideas exist together?
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They can. But that doesn't mean that the fear of it happening will suddenly vanish. I personally don't think that it will happen, but I'm still afraid of it influencing the market to a noticeable degree.
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I mean before this generation we have always had games that reached out to a larger audience and was made with a lot less money and effort than other games. Tetris is one of the highest selling games of all-time, I'm almost certain it didn't take millions in research.
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That's such a bullshit point. Tetris?
Really? At least pick a game from the relatively modern video game era. Not a game that was made before most of us were even alive. And considering it was made in 1984 on a really super crappy computer, I'm going to bet it's safe to say while it didn't take millions in research, it sure as shit wasn't easy to make - nor did the person know how it would do as a video game, considering it was
1984.
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Hell look at all the games PopCap sells. Developers and publishers are people as well, they have an audience to feed, they will feed it. I don't see that changing... or we would have seen an exodus of talent and development to the Wii, but we don't.
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The reason Bejewelled and the like do so well, is because you can play them on A) A phone which you can take places or B) A computer during a desk job. I don't think anyone thinks "Aw, I've got a few minutes at work. Let's plug away at Fallout."
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Originally Posted by BreakABone
And also, there is no proven formula for success in this industry. Look how many GTA 3 clones popped up last generation and are probably buried in some desert somewhere never to be heard from again.
Hell, the Wii has a dearth of mini-game and sports collections, you probably never heard of or saw in stores because most retailers wouldn't give it the time of day.
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There is easily a formula for success. First off, the reason GTA 3 did better than the clones, was because it was a Grand Theft Auto game. Grand Theft Auto was a big title since it's release in 1997. If this was the very first Grand Theft Auto game ever released, we'd all look at it as some shitty Yakuza remake.
The formula for success is simple, really. First, you need at least a semi-compelling storyline. In lieu of a compelling storyline you can re-hash previous storylines with new features (IE: the Zelda series) and as long as the series is popular enough, it will sell.
Second, and lastly - you need properly placed marketing. No game will take off if not marketed. Nomatter how good it is. Valkyria Chronicles. Hands down an amazing game. Got no publicity.
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Does that mean every movie that comes out is now a comic book movie? No because producers and directors realize that the market can sustain other movies even though it may not make near as much.
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The producers/directors who don't want to make superhero movies (for the sake of your comparison) are the people who are wanting to still make epic games. The rest of the industry, we can view as everyone who makes superhero movies.
And for the record, it practically seems like every 3rd or 4th movie out these days
is a superhero movie, so that was a really poorly picked comparison.
Let's look at the list of comic/graphic novel movies in recent history here:
Note the release dates, and how little there are in the mid 90's, and how many come out between 2005-2011. There is a definite influx beginning to take place, 10-15 years after superhero movies started out in the late 80's.
30 days of night - 2007
300 - 2007
Every alien vs. predator movie
Ant-Man- 2010 (Oh, it's coming)
The Avengers -2011
Every Batman movie.
The Blade series.
Captain America: The First Avenger - 2011
Catwoman - 2004
Constantine - 2005
All of The Crow movies.
Daredevil - 2003
Deathlok - 2011
Elektra - 2005
Fantastic Four - 2005
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer - 2007
Ghost Rider - 2007
Green Lantern - 2011
The Hellboy movies
All The Hulk movies.
Iron Man - 2008
Iron Man 2 - 2010
Josie and the Pussycats - 2001
Judge Dredd - 1995
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - 2003
Magneto - 2011
The Mask - 1995
Men In Black - 1997
Men In Black II - 2002
Mystery Men - 1999
Nick Fury - 2010
The Punisher - 2004
The Punisher War Zone - 2008
Sin City - 2005
Spawn - 1997
Spider-Man - 2002
Spider-Man 2 - 2004
Spider-Man 3 - 2007
Spider-Man 4 - 2011
The Spirit - 2008
Tank Girl - 1995
Teanage Mutant Ninja Turtles - 1990
Secret of Ooze - 1991
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III - 1993
Timecop - 1994
Timecop: The Berlin Decision - 2002
Thor - 2010
V for Vendetta - 2006
Venom - 2011
Wanted - 2008
Watchmen - 2009
Whiteout - 2009
XMen - 2000
X-2 - 2003
The Last Stand - 2006
Origins: Wolverine - 2009