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Originally Posted by manasecret
While they may not all apply directly to the U.S. because of several different factors as Bond mentioned, to put them forth as arguments against healthcare saying that socialized healthcare must = long wait times, socialized healthcare must = less innovative healthcare, are simply not valid arguments.
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Ok, we'll change the argument to "are
likely to hurt innovation and increase wait times" instead of
"must".
Israel is an excellent example of good socialized healthcare working very well, but we also have to realize that Israel is not America in size, scope or citizenship (they have an abundance of doctors who live there for reasons beyond their profession). Thats why I think the greatest arguments against universal health insurance aren't examples from other countries, even though there are plenty of horror stories to share along with victory speeches, but whether or not America has ever been able to competently execute something of this size and scope, or even less so.
The answer is a resounding and obvious "no", but for some reason people will never stop repeating the same mantra of "this time we'll get it right"... "this time we'll get it right"...
I'd actually like to ask what people think about "risk pooling" that McCain talked about recently, where he addresses those that can't get insurance for pre-existing conditions by pooling them together and having a government agency help purchase insurance for everyone as a group to help reduce costs. This would help fill the current gap in the uninsured who want coverage, but also not force anyone to get insurance if they don't want it and wouldn't sabotage the free market and/or employer provided care the large majority of Americans currently enjoy.