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Re: Obama and the Birthers
Old 08-11-2009, 02:46 PM   #13
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Huxley's version of the future was always far more frightening to me. Oppression from an outside source will always eventually be overthrown, because to rule you inevitably must have the will of the people. Even the Romans understood this and most of their conquered people's were willing participants in the end.

But a society that allows itself to be catered to and taken care of? There is no one to fight that kind of soft oppression when people will hand over their freedom in exchange for reduced personal responsibility. They are the willfully oppressed. The retarded children of the much derided "nanny state".

There is no freedom without responsibility.

But we are WAY off topic.

Personally, I think Birthers for the most part are people who are genuinely concerned about their county's direction under Obama, but they misplace their objections and concentrate on the meaningless and trivial, attacking President Obama as a person, rather than concentrating on countering his ideas and policies. These people are easily dismissed because there is no substance to the argument.

Think of the difference in affect of the two current news items:

The Birthers are overwhelmingly dismissed, even by most conservative talk show hosts, and their cause has gotten them nowhere because they are consumed with Obama Derangement Syndrome (not unlike Sean Hannity's infamous Bush Derangement Syndrome) and attack Pres. Obama the person.

Meanwhile the healthcare town halls are full of people who are passionately arguing policy going line by line through the healthcare plans and the left is reduced to trying to attack the people at the meetings and not their criticisms (Pelosi even claimed people were bringing Swastikas to events, which is utterly untrue and disgusting) and the critics are currently winning the argument.

Ideas will always win if you choose to argue them and not attack the messenger. When you attack the messenger, normally it's a sure sign you're position is weak or deceitful.
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