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Re: Public option for healthcare
Old 07-24-2009, 01:19 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Professor S View Post
I'm not one to say hat the American healthcare system is perfect, it's absolutely not perfect... but nothing is. We keep pushing forward with these radical ideas with no real thought towards unintended consequences all because there are flaws in what we deem should be perfect.
I hadn't seen this point before, prof you bring foward a very reasonable arguement.. But once again my base disagreement is in the fact that this should be handled 100% by the private sector.

The point of the public option is for healthcare to be available to anyone, instead of it just being a luxury. While you can talk bad about government run things like public schooling, social security, law enforcement etc.. the point of these things are to make these human needs available to everyone.

A public school is not the best for a student to go to, that's why there's private schools. Law enforcement isn't the best security for everyone, that's why people hire bodygaurds. I don't see any direct complaints from the public about social security.. but I'm sure if they hate it enough they don't have to go through such systems. (but good luck getting private insurance for a reasonable price if you're old and sick)

The point is to give people an OPTION that is not based in making a profit off of you, and that is not trying to deny you care when you really get sick.

If the government programs are so bad, why aren't politicians openly fighting against it. Why isn't anyone trying to get rid of medicare and medicaid? Why isn't anyone trying to get rid of the public schooling system? Of course I know why nobody does that, and yes there reasons for not doing it is reasonable.. But I think healthcare is something that should fit into the same category and shouldn't be handled by a regulated private sector.

I think the public option should be made, and once its there.. when it has some issues we should dow hat we can to try and fix it.

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While government can be good at regulating and policing private bodies, it's always been proven to be woefully inadequate at RUNNING anything. Waste, quotas, corruption and politics tend to make decisions instead of professionals (see public education for an example). I've always found it curious that every public societal function that is controlled by the government is continually and unendingly ridiculed, yet the answer to all of this criticism is "make it bigger/throw more money at it".
I'd rather it be in this position then where it is now. Where politicians are taking 'donations' from these private health insurance companies to vote with them, even though its clear that they're breaking the system as it is now.

I'm a supporter of capitalism, but the fact is that it doesn't work for everything. These companies mindset is to make as much money as possible, while spending as little money as possible. That's the true reason for all of the stories in manasecret's post.

At this point, I don't think there's any reasonable regulations that can be done on the private healthcare insurance companies without pretty much destorying what makes them profitable in the first place. Like setting regulations in there about renegotiating healthcare or dropping healthcare, or making it manditory to provide it to anyone regardless of age.. or no longer being able to discriminate on the price based on age... like wild things like that.. And even if things like that were set in, they'd either find loopholes, or blame the government directly for all of their problems based on the regulation in an effort to get the regulations lifted.

So why waste our time and money regulating them? We should make them compete with a proper healthcare system to start.

Why shouldn't healthcare be a right instead of a luxury?
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