[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Ric

It was a joke aimed at the few europeans that post here actually. And it was also factual. Normandy was just one of 5 beaches attacked that day, it just so happens that, that was the one the americans landed at. Pure chance. If the Americans had landed at an 'empty' beach you would not have even mentioned it.

You say that as if the attack was not planned and the allies didn't know ahead of time what beaches were more heavily defended and harder to overcome. But in essence, you are correct, I only mentioned it because 10,000 died, but that doesn't take away from the fact that 10,000 died on European soil defending YOUR country's freedom, not theirs. I could have mentioned the thousands that parachuted in or landed at oher beaches. I could have mentioned Patton driving to Berlin. I could have mentioned how instrumental a small American force was in holding back the last gasp of the Nazi's during the battle of the bulge. Oh wait, I just mentioned all of these.

I said 'use americas money' that was the main thing that was needed and used it was. So I have denied nothing and lied about nothing. Thousand of US troops did indeed come to the UK and stay there till the end of the war. And dont get funny with me when I say the U.S claims the glory because you do.

Yes, and glory is deserved. Glory is also desreved for the French freedom fighters and the British that held out as long as they did. Celebrating accomplishments of the American military in WW2 does not deminish the accomplishments of others. Your snide remarks were an attempt to trivialize the American military's importance in the war, and that entire premise is false.

I could say that what you call 'juvenile nationalism/anti-americanism' is possibly one of the mosy hypocritical things I have ever heard. Parhaps not on your behalf granted. But how often do we see Canada and canadians slated by americans on these boards? What it's ok for americans to take the piss out of people but not for anyone to take the piss out of americans, is that what you are saying.

Quite honestly I don't see very much Canada-bashing on this forum, at least not in any way that is serious, and there is just as much if not more America bashing (your post as an example) so I dont really understand your argument. I also don't see how defending your offensive comments by refrerencing other supposed offensive comments makes them any more appropriate or historically accurate.

You can defend your statements all you like, but trying to dismiss the American involvement as you have: "the rest of europe kills the Germans. Then watch them step in at the last minute as Berlin is taken to claim the glory" is wholly and completely inaccurate, and given this time of the year, offensive.

You are simply wrong and rude at the basest of levels. You pissed on the memory of soldiers who died attempting to save your country. There is nothing redeeming about your comments from a historical or social perspective. If you prefer not to acknowledge that, I'll just chalk it up as a character flaw and we can move on.