Ok, strangler, way to avoid the point and clear up nothing.
From my understanding of your arguement (which is apparently wrong according to you).. torture has been used over a long period of time by multiple countries, therefore it must have provided reliable information at some point or another. Do you agree with this statement?
Cause that's the impression I got from this quote:
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No one is arguing that other interrogation methods don't work. If they didn't work, they wouldn't be used at all.
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I don't need side commentary either, just a yes or no. Clarify me on your stance. This is just one thing I've felt you've dismissed as fact.