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Originally Posted by Ric
Yes, good. And now we can get back to the whole point of my topic all the way back in my first post. Can you really justify this kind of spending on the military? We are talking about an exchange of money greater than that of the entire wealth of some countries.
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When that military protects those countries, then yes, there is an argument for it. It's easy to argue against the American miltary footprint when the only alternative is something we'll never know until goliath is no more. Something tells me the world's safety and economic security would be far worse off if it wasn't for the American military. Poland recently asked America to complete their missile defense system and most Eastern European nations that are free would be scared to death if an American led NATO were to cease to exist, of not already reabsorbed back into mother Russia.
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When we go to war against another country it comes down to a few basic facts, what the military and government want us the public to believe, and what is actually going on.
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Agreed, but lets not let our imaginations get away from us.
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Why are we in Afganistan? Opium, thats why! The backbone of the developed worlds medical and health treatments. The same drugs you get in paracetamol or asprin even morphine are all derived from one plant. Poppies, the same one they make heroine out of.
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Wow. Thats a pretty damning statement. I'm sure you have damning evidence to support it. Because there is a whole lot of evidence that some peopel flew two planes into the NYC skyline. It was, you know, on TV and stuff.
Looking up articles, most of the arguments are about whether to burn outright or buy and burn.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/25/po...tary.html?_r=1
As for "trace amounts" of things, that is a straw man. There are trace amounts of everything in everything. There are trace amounts of peanuts in almost every processed food. That doesn't prove we fought the Civil War to get the southern Peanut fields.
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Why are we in Iraq. Oil. 25% of the worlds supply of it. Enough to keep the US and Europe's economy strong for the next 50 years.
The three most valuable commodities on the planet. G.O.D.
Gold - Oil and Drugs
EDIT - for the record. Yes this is what armies are for. But charity should start at home. England just printed 75 billion pounds in new banknotes. And there are still homeless people living in the streets in our country.
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Once again, these arguments are old, stale and weak. We've argued and debunked each other over and over again. No need to further this excercise in redundancy.
You seem to think that a imperfect society is a failed society. What I think you are forgetting is what previous efforts to create perfect societies reaped their people...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism