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Re: Thoughts on Superman
Old 03-10-2009, 03:03 PM   #18
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Well as far as I know, the multiverse laid dormant for almost 20 years between Crisis on Infinite Earth and Infinity Crisis in 2005.

And the death from that eventful was meaningful, and outside of the Flash who returned just at the end of Final Crisis, I don't believe anyone else was bought back from the dead.

I still don't agree with you on the whole Batman RIP thing since I guess I followed it closely, they always said that Bruce would no longer be Batman, and half way through most people assumed that Morrison would break Bruce psychologically to the point where he would need to hang up the cowl for a bit.

Two things with the Splash image, one I think it went more for iconic as it shows Superman has failed to save even the greatest of Earth's heroes and that evil truly had won the day. And second, Bruce Wayne is dead, his spirit or whatever lives on. I can understand how you mean it was glorified, but I mean they lay it out at the end of the next issue. I feel that was important instead of dragging it out for years, they at least acknowledge that he will be back.

I don't think you need to kill a character to ruin any momentum, and Spiderman unmasking was a HUGE HUGE HUGE deal. Then it was retconned within like 6 months in the most retarded way possible, and it is not like the fallout had been worth it. Just... ARGH dam you MARVEL!

Not gonna disagree with you on the Captain America thing, but my thing with Spiderman and to a lesser extent Jean is that Marvel is not beneath trying some cheap changes to booster sales.

Sure Superman has been killed and Batman's back broken, but I mean Marvel unmasked Spiderman, killed the Captain, I won't mention Jean again, wiped out most of the mutant population and made a new color Hulk to show him when he really gets mad.

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But thats not my point. My point is that the constant returns deminish any reason to emotionally invest in these characters, as I never fully emotionally invested in Jean Grey once they started offing her every decade or so. And with the entire multi-verse abortion, they have built in an automatic do-over button where they can simply erase any previous continuity any time they feel like it. Its a device for LAZY writers and creators, not a genuine way to build a universe, IMO. Say what you will about Marvel, but they didn't go in such a intellectually corrupt and confusing direction.
Well that's the thing, I mean the difference between Superman and Jean or any of them is it doesn't happen often to the same character.

Superman has died once as far as I know. Batman same deal. Superboy Prime. The Flash is a bit questionable as they have killed multiple Flashes, but different characters and the sort.

And usually when they are bought back, they try to do it in a way in which it has ramifications to the world around it. I mean outside of Jason Todd coming back from his reality punch.

And sometimes, its the lesser moments sprinkled around comics that you would miss. Like Green Arrow talking to Hal Jordan at his gravesite. Or Robin working on a way to bring back Superboy or even the Cult that Elastic Man joins in order to resurrect his wife.

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Can you tell I hate the multi-verse? It's garbage. Utter, complete, bankrupt garbage.
I said most of my piece on the multi-verse up top.

But again Marvel isn't above this... they just simplified it by creating an entirely new line of comic books so they didn't have to muddle with their own complex and complicated history.
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