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KillerGremlin · 03-02-2009, 11:55 PM

The rebuttle I promised, <3.

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I will say there are a ton of games that use it well in the context of the games:
-I think Godfather Blackhand Edition makes good use of motion controls and actually improves it (I've played the Xbox and PC version) It also adds a layer of visceral to the game that is not replicable on other consoles or even PCs.

The Wii version is getting a 77% on gamerankings, which while better than the competition, still isn't floor dropping. (http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9343...ion/index.html)

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-I've used it in the past as an example as a great concept in a meh game, but Medal of Honor Heroes 2 makes great use of the Wii-mote in both controls (aiming and strafing and all that fun jazz) and in making guns feel unique. Something I wish more games carried over. You use the chuck to pump a shotgun, you hoist the wii-mote on your shoulder to use the bazooka and you twist a knob on your sniper wth the Wii-mote. It's the little things that really adds up in my opinion.

It's getting a 75% on gamerankings (http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9420...-2/index.html).
It's still not a great game. In fact Medal of Honor is about as generic as FPS gaming can get. Not to sound snobby, but in the huge amount of PC games I have played I have found games that have made guns feel "unique." What you enjoy about the Wii controls sounds gimicky, and it sounds like it would be a pain in the ass to execute in multiplayer

. That's my opinion of course.

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-Then there is the other use I've grown fond of which is using Wii-mote gestures for finishing moves in games like No More Heroes and Deadly Creatures. I mean it doesn't add much to the gameplay, but it is a cool feature when the motions mimick the action to some degree.

No More Heroes 83% - http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9330...oes/index.html
Deadly Creatures 73.5% - http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.h...reatures&site=

Oh, one good game and one average game.

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And is there a problem with that?
I got an Xbox as a dedicated Halo player.
I got my Cube for Melee.
As long as you have a single game that warrants you keeping the console, I think its a win. There are a ton of side project games that work just as well.

This is why there are 3 consoles and people are dumb for shelling out cash for them. The cost of a console does not justify one, two or even three games. I got my Xbox for Halo/Halo 2/SSX3/Jet Grind Radio/Panzer Dragon/Racing Titles/Etc.

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more rail shooters (which have seen a revival on the Cube)

I disagree. Panzer Dragoon Orta and Starfox 64 are two awesome rail shooters. They were both A+ titles, they didn't rely on gimmicky as fuck controls, and in case you missed them you should go play them.

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I will respectfully disagree with that. I think BoomBlox is a great example of a game that uses motion controls, feel new and is a ton of fun. I would say the same with Lost Winds even though its a WiiWare game. deBlob is awesome, but I know that could be done on other consoles.

Boom Blox 85.2% - http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9419...lox/index.html

LostWinds 80% - http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9450...nds/index.html

de Blob 81.5% - http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/9419...lob/index.html

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Now I won't sit here and argue the merit of any of those games, some are awesome, some shouldn't even exist, but the fact is Nintendo hasn't been a slouch when it came to releasing games this generation. It may be difficult for people when there is a streak of lesser/casual affairs, but there is a ton of variety in that list and some really hidden and underrated gems.

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This is all a personal opinion really. Wii Sports and Wii Play are probably the two most bought and played games on the console so they are doing something right in that regard.

Marketing psychology? Wii Sports was a fun diversion for a couple of weeks, in fact I still enjoy Wii Golf. Does it justify the purchase of said console? ehhh....but hey, look at the reviews again, Wii Sports/Play were received lukewarmly.

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For people like you and I, and I assume everyone else on these forums, that won't be enough.

How about everyone who shelled out hard earned cash on the Wii.

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And the thing is, I felt that 3rd parties should have been filling in the gaps, but they spent the bulk of 07 convincing themselves that the Wii was not gonna last, it was nothing but a fad so they didn't support it. 08 was spent with quick cash-ins to try and gather some of that fanbase and we got shitted on, short and simple. Nothing but cheap cash-ins with some really terrible ideas not even executed well.

I think it is a two-way street more than you know. I know Sony and M$ were out there trying to get 3rd party support. The proof is in the pudding, and by pudding I mean the new generation graphic/cpu. Something the Wii does not have.

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This year though looks like there will be a revival of those games on the Wii. Sega is leading the charge with House of the Dead, Sonic and the Black Knight, Conduit and Madworld.

Sonic is your great redeemer? You are setting yourself up for disapointment.

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EA has announced extreme support, but we shall see what comes of it.

*looks at Wii Play/Wii Sports review

Anyway, just some thoughts.......