[Professor S]

Originally Posted by BLueFire

Out of curiosity, why do you think his trip to Germany was meaningless?

Because he is running for president of the United States, and not the world. He gave a speech to 200,000 Germans that said absolutely nothing, and played basketball, as if that would give him any credibility when it comes to foreign relations, another area that he knows next to nothing about. The trip Europe as a sideshow and a photo-op.

Now, I'm not necessarily disagreeing that having little to no experience is a bad thing, but why are you sure that having experience is a guarantee for a good president? I mean, I'm sure you've seen all the articles floating about: Most historians and the general public believe that Lincoln was the greatest president the country has had.. and also one of the most inexperienced.

History has also shown us that having a lot of experience doesn't make a good president. So I just have to ask, why are you so adamant about requiring a wealthy amount of experience for presidency? I mean, Obama DOES have some experience.

I never said experience makes a great President, but I believe it should be a qualification. You mention Lincoln as being a great President with little experience, and I counter with Woodrow Wilson, who was a borderline facist who believed that "certain individuals" should be sterilized. He only had a few years as Governor before winning the Presidency. If we want to use isolated examples, we can come up with any argument we like.

But more importantly, I think that if you have little experience, and basically refuse to state your opinion on major issues and political topics, that should show you that he is unqualified.

Obama is inexperienced, but not stupid. Having next to no experience or track record to go back to in national politics (or more importantly no track record that can be used against him) he uses amorphous speech, talking about "change" and "hope", but rarely stating what he wants to change, or go into detail about how he would go about it. This way his opinion is EVERYONE's opinion, because no one is against change or hope, and you can slide your political beliefs in to fit with his message. This is why there is a % of disenfranchised Repuiblicans who support Obama, even though if you take the time to dig up his record, and you have to dig becuase no media outlet will challnge Obama on it, he disagrees with just about everything Republicans and even right leaning moderates believe in.

Now do you want me to go into detail as to why I'm against Obama and think he would be the most damaging President in history?

1) In state senate he voted that if a late term abortion fails, meaning the child is alive outside of the womb, the doctor can kill it. Honeslty, supporting late term abortion was bad enough. Obama stated that he voted against it because it called a phetus a child... well DUH, its alive outside of the womb, that is the very definition of a human. His vote stated that human life is based on whether or not we intended it to live, not whether or not the child is ALIVE.

2) Obama has refused to change is opinion on the troop surge in Iraq and its success, even though most objective observation and the death counts have proven it to be a success. Regardless of a change in policy, I do not trust someone who can not admit to facts.

3) On more than one occassion Obama has essentially repeated ideals strait from the Communist Manifesto. In a fundraiser(sp?) in San Fran he stated that some people who are disenfranchised cling to Religion and guns to fill the void, whixch is basically a rewording of the Marxist belief that Religion is the opiate of the masses and sole intent was to keep the poor from rising up. At Wesleyan's graduation he stated that the individual cannot succeed without the collective, and talked about a belief in national service beyond the military and "asking citizens to serve", whatever that means, but Obama certainly won't tell you and no one will ask him to clarify.

4) Obamanomics - His tax policy would cripple small businesses and single-proprietor businesses, raising many of their tax burdens as much as 25% in cases, once ALL the taxes, increases in social security payments and other federally mandated employee benefits are raised. Sound all well and good, but Obama tends to view the world through the leftist view that actions don't have unintended results. When you hurt the small business owner, you hurt American because small businesses employ the vast majority of people in America. When taxes are raised on them, they don't pay the taxes, they hide the money in trusts and other shelters instead of putting money back into their business, and their employees, and growing the economy.

Obama is also for such horrible economic policies such as the "liveable wage" replacing minimum wage. 1) Less than 2% of people are paid minimum wage, so this will not help the economy at all 2) Minimum wage mandates have already started to take effect, and the result is a historical high in teenage unemployment. Business owners will not pay people who are inexperienced that much money to drop baskets of fries when a touch screen can take an order and an illegal immigrant can work off the books. If anything, it will only serve to help make people more comfortable in poverty. How is raising the minimum wage to a liveable wage supposed to help anyone? Who knows, and those that support it definitely don't care as long as it sounds like a good thing to run for re-election with.

5) Obama clims to be a uniter, but has proven to only want to unite those that do what he thinks. The National Journal (non-partisan) analyzed his voting record and showed it to be the most liberal in all of Congress, voting 97% the party line. But he tends in ignore his voting record in his speeches, and when he taks about his experience, he talks about being a community organizer on Chicago, whatever that means.


But what bugs me the most is that he looks like someone who is trying to get elected by pretending to support certain views, and once he is elected he can follow another agenda. In my mind, if you are afraid to tell your constituency what you really believe in for fear of not getting elected, you are unqualified to be president, or even be a public servant.