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Re: Iran photoshops missiles into picture to appear powerful
Old 07-11-2008, 09:11 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin View Post
And to further elaborate on this point, when the Bush administration decided to go to war with Iraq, it was on the heels of 9/11. Couple that with the argument that getting Saddam out of there was in the best interest of everyone, and you have an administration that appears to be pulling some manipulative strings. This country is built upon democracy, yes? The decision to go to war should not be in Bush's hands, it should be in the hands of the country. And, it should be in the best interest of this country. So, again, this is hard to argue because we now know just how taxing this war has been, but I wonder if most Americans at the time of declaring war on Iraq really wanted to go to war. And, we will see if the overall outcome of the Iraq War is in anyway positive for this country.
Did Bush manipulate a bit and pull strings? Yes. So did Roosevelt to get us into WW2. The congree manipulates and pulls strings on every bill that passes, adding bridge building to farm bills for example. You act as if this is something new in politics. But the premise was based on the idea that iraq was a threat and the strings were pulled and info tweaked to promote that belief.

And NO, the people do NOT decide who goes to war in the US. The presidient is the Commander in Chief. We elect the person who we trust to make those decisions. Now you can argue whether or not we made the right decision, but decsions to go to war certainly are not to be decisded by referendum.

And yes, I can absolutely say that 90% of the American people, if not more, were very much behind the Iraq war. Thats not even a question, really.

But the argument is whether or not Bush went to war for oil. Nothing in any argument you have made has had anything to do with oil. Attempting to debunk stated US motivations for the war does not prove your theory. A lack of evidence, in your opinion, is not evidence for your opinion about "war for oil". if you want to argue the point that we went to war for oil, then make that argument.

And I started talking about Iran because that is what this thread is actually about (see the title)

But I guess we've moved on it topics

Good discussions all around. I hope I have been more civil that usual, I've been working on that.
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