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Originally Posted by Professor S

Regardless, realistic numbers don't even come close to Hussein's brutal regime and likely never will since the new strategy is working out so well and deaths have fallen to the point that the Iraqi government is asking us to reduce troop numbers because they think they can handle it themselves.

Is it because they think they can handle it themselves? They probably can, if they want this sort of thing, but the main reason is they want the US out of their business.

Originally Posted by Professor S

So do you or don't you think that the tens of thousands of deaths under Saddam were more acceptable or not?

I can't tell if you're being humanitarian here, or just trying to justify the war.

Originally Posted by Professor S

So if we can't do everything we should do nothing? I've never understood this argument. If we follwed the ethic behind it nothing would ever get done in the world in any venue. Don't let the impossible perfect prevent the achievable good.

What does "if we can't do everything we should do nothing" mean? I mean, who are "you" (of course, I mean the US - I've been avoiding saying "you" directly, so excuse me) to do something about this? This "superpower" thing is just getting out of hand. It's like the US owns the world.

Just like what KillerGremlin said.

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I don't think we're really in the position to start telling countries if they can or cannot have missiles...Iran has just as much right to defend their border as any other country, regardless of how crazy they are.

And just think about it, some country, thinking the same thing about the US's policies, came and attacked you, started a full on war, thousands dying all around. Then the world finds out that there's nothing behind it. It all looks to be a lie. What would you think?

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I think, if you brought this point up to the thousands of Americans who are without health care or jobs, they might suggest that we could have better invested our money in our own country, rather then helping Iraq. Maybe that view is selfish. But, we are accumulating debt by the trillions, and it's going to come out of the American tax payer's pocket in the end. We have schools, health care, social security...and this war with Iraq.

I don't think this view is selfish. It's what the government is there for. Yes, they also have to protect their country - their country, not another country- but, well, it's not like they've really "protected" anybody (neither their own nor the other)..

I must say, I don't hate the US, and I'm not looking at this biased. If my country did something like this, I'd be saying the same things. I do say the same things. So..take that as you will..