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Originally Posted by Professor S
The funniest part fo this thread is that we were actually having a decent discusion about the honesty of the politics on both Daily and Colbert, and I didn't think I was being rude at all, just pointing out differences of opinion.
Then I was told to "eat a dick". Even if meant as a joke, it was intended at my expense.
And somehow I'm the bad guy?
The bottom line is that I treat differentiating opinions with the same respect that is given by those that have them. Ever wonder why Xantar and I never agree on anything yet we get along wonderfully? Its because we respect each other's opinions because they are supported by evidence and executed with logic and reason. The whole idea of "I don't have to support my arguments" is completely foreign and idiotic to me, so I treat it as such.
Dyflon, Typhoid, etc... If you want to have a serious discussion about politics, then treat your views with seriousness, and not apathy. Educate yourself as to why you feel this way, instead of just saying "Hey, its my opinion! You can't tell me my opinion is wrong!" But if you are educated on your opinion...
PLEASE SHARE IT! I want to know why you feel the way that you do, not that you just do! I want our discussions to enlighten both of us, and if you know something that I don't, I pray for you to share it with me! But I won't just take your word for it when my own information about the same subjects leads me to believe differently.
When people make arguments and do not explain why they feel that way with anything besides "Its my opinion", its easy to assume them to be fools ruled by emotion and not reason, and my snide comments meant as challenges to get more out of you (I can see now its worked wonderfully). I'd just like to see the information and validation match the passion of your opinions. I don;t have to agree with you or change your mind to respect your opinion. I just need to see where your coming from.
People say I think its a game, but it seems to me that out of the people here that do talk politics, I'm one of the few that take it seriously enough to justify my arguments, and that frustrates me to no end.
And Tim Horton's is AWESOME. When I lived in St. Kitts I got coffee there every morning. Their sandwiches SUCK, though. The coffee makes up for it.
Anyway, I hope that explains my thought process through our political discussion.
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I've understood what you do for a long time. I'm pretty sure most everyone else here understands that, they just don't write posts saying they do. What gets me is that Typhoid and Dylflon and Fox 6 and the like
don't get it.
I prefer talking to people who are willing to and in fact do tell me I'm wrong (it happens a lot), and back it up with logic, reason, and facts. To me, that's a sign that that person intellectually respects me enough not to just gloss over what he/she really thinks.
I do the opposite all the time. If I think some guy blathering on about some opinion of his is completely stupid, I usually just agree with whatever they have to say so I can be lazy and not have to waste my time explaining why they're wrong. I've made a prejudice decision and assumed that this person is just an all-around idiot and doesn't deserve my time. I have no respect for him intellectually. Which is a dick thing to do. I prefer people who, quite simply,
aren't dicks, who will take the time to tell me how I'm wrong. They may seem like big meanies, but really the bigger dick is the one who just pays you lip service.