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Originally Posted by Neo
I never said religion doesn't exist. Of course it exists. It's ridiculous to say that a lack of understanding = nonexistence. And no that is not the same thing as saying God doesn't exist because we don't understand him. We don't understand God because it's completely illogical and unnecessary. And even though the exact mechanism of quantum leaping may not be completely understood, that doesn't mean it never will be understood. There are quantum physical theories dealing with this anyway. And science is NOT a faith. To say so means you don't understand how science works at all. Science is means of objectively gathering evidence and then generating models based on those theories. Religion is about blind adherence to an invisible man who lives in the sky for which there is absolutely zero evidence.
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This is where you lose me in your arguments. You are so convinced that science holds tha answers to everything you put all your faith in it, but cannot even imagine putting faith into God. Its just mindboggling that as a scientist you would completely disregard one thoery out of hand because you don't understand it.
You say there is no evidence of God's existence. I sa the proof is all around you and as a scientist you deal with His proof daily. You want evidence, when any proof of God would destroy him. Proof denies faith and without faith God is nothing. The fact you want empirical evidence shows that you don't enderstand the philisophical basics religion.
As for the example you wanted, you gave it to me. Electrons jump levels when according to the laws of science they can only exist on a level. So if they can only exist on a level, how do they move levels without ceasing to exist? Is there a finite time or space they travel through? There are theories and conjecture as to how this happens, but in the end there is no proof. You accept that there is a scientific explanation on faith. You accept that we will find the link between bacteria and single celled organisms on faith.
Why can't you just even consider God as an option? The more I've learned about science and physics the more my faith in God has beened re-affirmed. You can't explain religion, but you can't disprove it, just as the more scientific knowledge we gain, the more questions we discover on a daily basis. And even if science can discover more and more information, does that mean that God dosn't exist? How can you simply eliminate God out of hand? Its rediculous. And with that I bid this argument adeu, as I'm starting to repeat myself.
EDIT: Found this explanation Q&A about level jumping.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=18923
If this isn't close to being religious faith in something, I have no idea what is. One theory is that electrons cease to exist on one level and then just exist on another. If this is true, I see no better "proof" of the existence of God than that.