[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Null

not sure what you mean there.

I was referring to...

theres no doubt that nitnendos controller will be better then a normal controller for FPS, but every review i've read from people who've tried it admit it still doesnt touch the pc setup.

I ahven't actually seen any review that made reference to it in comparision to a PC setup.

i think this a whole different ball game then what your pointing out.
for 1, we're talkin FPS games, not maping a keyboard out to use a platformer, that would be silly.
keyboard support is already in many of the online games that consoles use.. basic keyboard support is VERY easy to impliment.

i can almost guarantee that all the FPS companies making these FPS games for PS3 and x360 that make em for PC are going to add the keyboard support if the console allows them to. (the console only developers will follow suit afterwards) In many of these games, like Unreal tourmanent 2007, Quake 4, Call of Duty, Half Life 2, etc. that have been developed on PC, will/already have the keyboard functions built into them, they just lie unused on a console that doesnt let it use it.

because for keyboard controls YOU develop the config. not them, when they have to design a game for 2 completely different controllers, they have to make up things to add and take away buttons. to figure out how they can get one thing done on another controller thats layed out different.

this is nothing like adding keyboard/mouse support. where you go into the control settings and tell it i want e to be move foward, and this key to jump. or that key to shoot.


IF the consoles allow the developers to add the support... then Keyboard/mouse support will be STANDARD for FPS games on consoles by the end of the new gen.

I'll be frank here.

i don't know and I don't care. I really don't like FPSers.

yea, but fishing rods, are something you play on your own for fun, and i dont know they may be easier to play then a controller i've never played em.

Maybe its just me, but I play all video games for fun

Steering wheels in racing games ARE the more procise and easier way to race. like, if someone were to go online with a racing game, one using a controller, one using a steering wheel. i'd give the advantage to the one using the wheel. he can control speed and turning much smoother and more accuratly then the person with the controller.

I think we've been through this before on AIM.
But I really think it deals with a level of comfort no matter what you are using.

In general it may be easier to control with a steering wheel but someone who can master the game with a controller is pretty much in the same boat.

Same way some people work better with certain setups than others.

What im saying for nintendos new controller, is while it may be a more fun way to control such and such game, it may not be the BEST way to control it. it all depends on the game. i'd love to use it on sports games and try it out, but i wouldnt want to seriously play a sports game using it. i'd want the better way.

How do you know the better way yet?
I mean you have to give it a try before you claim the conventional way is the only way.

And no controller works well for EVERY genre of game.. its pretty much impossible I think. There are games in most genres that may work around a controller but eh.

Case in point, I still find the PSX/PS2 controller akward for wrestling games and any game that uses dual analog.

And we know Cube controller sucks for fighters and pretty much anything you need the D-Pad for.

Fact of the matter is if they can find ways to cater to their strenghts they have an advantage.

There are lots of doubts, I have.

I don't see how wrestling games would work. (yes if you haven't picked it up enjoy wrestling games)

On the same note, I don't see how fighting games may work.

But I can see it working for like RTS or FPS or racers.

I think that many of the people who still play 'the classics' are ones who actually grew up with the games... They're fueled by nostalgia and familiarity...

I can pull out an NES/SNES game I played as a wee boy and still thoroughly enjoy it...
Yet when a friend or someone else recommends an amazing OL' SKOOL game that I just have to play, I find it extremely hard to get into...

That is a good point.

But I really think it is about the games.

I mean just look at the Mario Advance ports, which sold real well, I highly doubt that was nostalgia sakes, I believe those games really hold up well no matter if you grew up on them or not.

But yeah there are games/genres that have been vastly improved that just seem so weird playing on older systems. It happens it even happens in a generation, I believe.

I guess an example I can use is my roommate.

Who prefers NBA Live 2004 on the Xbox to any other version of the game before or after it. Even though newer versions may look better or add more stuff. I guess it was just a combination of things in that one game that made it the best overall for him.