[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Null

well if ps3 and x360 allow for keyboard/mice, then they've arleady have the top level of control over the lution controller, theres no doubt that nitnendos controller will be better then a normal controller for FPS, but every review i've read from people who've tried it admit it still doesnt touch the pc setup.

Just curious you read the part about it not touching the PC set-up.

As for keyboard/mice on PS3/X360 it may run into the problem most accessories do and that is usage. I mean the controller is standard so developers have to implent it into their games, some will, some won't.

and with icon passing in sports games, i think its still alot easier to press X to pass to the person with X over thier head then anything this controller could do.
Say you could throw it like a real foot ball in the direction you want to throw your pass....
Fun? oh hell yea, it would be a blast.
Practical? sadly no, expecially in the age of competitive gaming, you using something thats 'fun' and someone else using something for more precision, they're gunna win, and they're gunna have more fun because of the win.
Having something be fun to me does not replace a better way of controlling something.

I don't think this point is entirely true. Well atleast on a whole.
There are people who buy fishing rods for games or steering wheels for racing game.
The games are built around the controller yes, but people find it more immersive to actually have a device they can control. While the Rev doesn't necessarily take the shape, it does allow a certain level of interaction as you control the action with your body.

Its like this I guess, have you ever played or known someoen who played a game and leaned their body in one way or another trying to well I guess control whats going on?

I don't know the last point with fun/precision. Case and point is most people will be using the Rev controller all at once. Unless, you are referring to playing a game on the 360 compared to the Rev.. then er I don't know

the way nintendos controller works, is setup on the sensors you have to put around your TV, which makes it an accessory to the main console. Now if by some chance this controller succeeds, what really would be stopping Sony or MS from producing an addon that does the same thing... then either of them claiming they have both the graphics AND the controller then.

Well, I'm sure its possible.
And it could very well happen.

But two things really stand out to me.

1)Rev would of had it first and its a console built around it. Its the way there were more games that used the analog stick on the n64 than the dual shock on the original PSX or the games that used 6 buttons on the Genesis.

2)Basically same point, but it would be an accessory to the console. It would be added money to the consumer and then something developers have to factor in about userbase who have it versus those who don't.

i think nintendo is trying to let MS and Sony battle each other, but i think they're putting themselves in a spot that they may not be able to climb out of later on.

It is quite 50/50 in this regard. they could als elevate themselves to a status that neither the Ps3 nor 360 can touch because they don't offer the same level of control.

Look at it this way, people still playing Genesis and Nintendo and PSX and it isn't because of the graphics.

A good game is a good game because it plays well. Graphics help a ton, I won't deny that. But once you get past how it looks, you need some type of substance. Games aren't moving pictures they are more an interactive story.

The example I was fond of was in the days of the n64/PSX.

PSX had the SmackDown series which by far the most featured packed and best looking wrestling series at the time (to a point it still is)

But the n64 had AKI's series which well not better looking nor touting as many features as the Smackdown was the much much better series by a long shot. Simply because the gameplay was hands down far superior.


Now this all however assumes that they actually deliver on games.

I mean look at Sunshine, it was supposed to spout some magical feature, and it really didn't. And in many regards was inferior to Mario 64 at least in my books.