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Originally Posted by Typhoid
But Rome wasnt Christian until Constantine.
Up until that Christians were the "underlings", they were sent into battles, and into the gladiator arenas for not swearing to things by the Roman Gods.
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What does that have to do with anything I wrote? I was making a comparison of the teachings of popular Western religion, AKA Christianity, and secular Romanism. I wasn't talking about Christian Rome. Also, what Christian Rome did is not necessarily a reflection of the religion, as well as western violence today is not necessarily a reflection of religion.
I was arguing that a secular scoiety, which the author says is less violent than a religious one, can be horrifically violent and immoral. Thus disassembling his whole thesis, which isn't very hard to disassemble in the first place.
And why are you convinced that it was their Gods that drove them? Do you have any sources to back that up, because everything I've seen on the History channel and read points to the generals and emporers trying to CURRY THE FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE, NOT THE GODS. That is a secular society. You are letting your own personal views on religion, or lack there of, taint your objective mind.
And once again, if Religion is created by man, is it not then that man is to blame for the violence? Religious beliefs have evolved for thousands of years, and they have always evolved with societies beliefs in right and wrong. Morals and Religion have shaped each other over the years and are a reflection of the hearts of mankind. If man is violent, it is his fault, because his creation is what makes him violent. Do not blame the instrument, blame the creator and wielder of that instrument.