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Originally Posted by Danchastu
Yes, I've read the comics. Closer doesn't always mean better...and wasn't even that close. Ra's Al Ghul had no part in the training of Batman. The two never met until Bats had Robin. And no Ubu? Pfft.
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That's no different than stuffing the Joker into the role of Bruce's parents killer. I don't think the Joker originally appeared in the comics until after Robin was introduced, either, but there he was in Batman '89, and there Robin wasn't.
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Originally Posted by Danchastu
Batman never had a fear of bats...he uses the symbol because criminals are a superstitious lot.
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In the movie, both reasons are used. No, Batman never says "superstitious lot," but I don't think he ever has outside of the comics. But he does dress as a bat to scare criminals. And frankly, I think Bruce's inspiration coming from his fear bats is much, much better than from "a bat randomly flew in the window at the precise moment that Bruce needed inspiration."
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Originally Posted by Danchastu
And where is all the forensics training he is suppose to also have learned. Not rely on Fox to do all the dirty work. The only comics I have with Fox are the No Man Land ones and don't believe he ever has a clue.
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Its a tad more realistic and much easier to portray in a movie if Bruce gets his weapons from some outside source than developing every single one by himself. Considering Nolan's intent in the movie (to make it grounded in a sort of semi-relaity), it works better.
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Originally Posted by Danchastu
I'm assuming by closer you're referring to Burton using Joker as a stand in for the murderer of Thomas and Martha Wayne. The Killing Joke came out a year before Burton's Batman was released. So at the time of the production of the movie Joker really didn't have a true past and thus was stuck into Batman's creation.
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What about Joe Chill? Wasn't he named by then? Or was he still nameless thug? It doesn't matter. What matters is that Burton changed a very important part of Batman's history by replacing Chill with the Joker, and giving him a fake name like "Jack Napier." Ruins the whole movie. I can't believe they would mess around with Batman like that.
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Originally Posted by Danchastu
And they were suppose to have been leaving a movie of Zorro, not some Opera. Zorro was a big influence on the costume of Batman. The best origin story is in Mask of the Phantasm. Bruce W. Timm really should of have a hand in the live-action movie.
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I always figured that Zorro had more of an impression on being Batman (vigilante fighting for justice with a mask) on a whole than just a costume. Anyway, yeah seeing an opera is different, but so? Its not like the entire mythos depends on Bruce seeing Zorro. It works just as well in the movie.
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Originally Posted by Danchuastu
Batman was no where near the detective he's suppose to have been which is also how Ra's Al Ghul always referred to him; "The Detective." Here he's just a real angry guy who screams a lot. Batman is suppose to have a cool and collected demeanor.
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Like Batman was a detective in the Burton movies? As I seem to recall, the most "detective" stuff he did was stare at a TV screen and then pop out an answer.
And Batman in Begins
is cool and collected. The only time he isn't is when he's interrogating somebody. Frankly, I find a guy who's screaming at me to be a tad bit scarier than some guy who's calmly asking me. This is, by the way, pretty much how he is shown in TAS, the producer of which you wished could have been involved in the movie.
/me shrugs and walks away