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Originally Posted by Blackmane

You have to be a realist and understand that even if Sony does incredibly well, they will not take the majority away from Nintendo in one generation. If they did very well and then made another handheld, that one might be able to take the lead. I never said they couldn't do well this generation, I said that they would not take the majority hold Nintendo has right away. It will take time, and one generation is not enough.

you said this generation. which means DS vs PSP. and what i said its up for grabs of which sells more and has the bigger percent of the market for this gen. which is true.
im not sure what your getting at tho. are you saying total? as in GB, GBC GBA etc. ? i hope not cuz thats majorly stating the obvious and something that needs not be said. if your talkin every handheld ever, then i'd say GBA will own more of the market then either DS or PSP. but thats a pointless discussion to be having.

Second, you are speaking in a generality and not looking at facts. Xbox sold some more than Nintendo, but Nintendo had a profit margin that was much greater than Microsofts. We all know Microsoft didn't make much money this time around. So, why try to argue that? I understand that Microsoft needed to take a hit in profits in order to break into the market, and thats fine. But stop trying to suggest that they made it up in quantity because it wasn't much higher than Nintendo.

you are totally not getting what im saying tho. im not speaking in anything because i dont know where your getting this topic from, i've never talked about who sold more. i dont care who sold more, i dont care how much money each makes. what im saying is, and only this. -- they all want to make money --. so why do you keep bringing up who makes more or less? its still making money.

the other part was a hypathetical responce to what you said. i think your taking in real companies and using them in my hypothetical situation, but im not sure why. i never said MS makes more in quantity, YOU came up with that yourself. all i said is its possible for one making less on each console to make more total. dont stick names into things i said and say i said em. please.

Nintendo is not near ready to sell, so of course, Microsoft could keep throwing bigger offers at them, but they are going to have to make a huge deal to get Nintendo to crumple with the current state of things. Like I have said, its hard to tell much farther then Revolution because we don't know how it is going to fare, but for right now, I think Nintendo is making plenty of money with what they are doing.

of course they have plenty of money. i have not seen one person dissagree with that. who said they arent?
Fact tho, you dont know if nintendo is ready to sell or not. all you know is that they arent in money trouble. im not saying they're ready to sell. but i sure as hell dont know whats going through thier minds. Microsoft could be ready to sell to nintendo for all i know. no one knows whats going to happen. crazy things happen all the time. as i said, nintendo does not have to be in money trouble to sell.


and to clearify again so we dont keep going into an argument over thigns we agre on..

I dont care who sells more
Nintendo makes a bigger profit on each console sold.
Nintendo is not in money trouble.
and all im saying is they're all trying to make money.


So my question im leaving you with, is what exactly are we arguing about?

Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

The bottom line for all companies is profit, but I find Nintendo to be one company that cares a bit more about trying new gaming ideas that they think are fun.

i agree with everything you said, but this line is very well put. because its something thats always bothered me. they make games and new ideas that THEY think are fun. i really wish they'd listen to what everyone else thinks is fun. not totally, i like that they come up with some stuff. but i wish they'd listen more. kind of a compramise between the 2.