[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by Neo

If I got drafted and was ordered to fight I would do so because because I respect the office and believe in our system.

That's noble of you. I mean, if it's me getting drafted and I don't believe in the war cause - I'm fricking moving to Canada.

Originally Posted by gekko

Funny, because if you were actually educated on politics, and not a biased liberal, you would actually realize the limited power of the President. But then again, considering you spent the last 4 years blaming everything wrong in the universe on Bush, it would be hard for you to come to your senses.

We could say the exact same thing about you Mr. Red. If there weren't so many screw-ups in the last four years nobody would feel much need to blame him for anything. And if you weren't such a hard core military nut, you might notice that many republicans are frustrated with the Bush administration as well. There is no "sense" to come to after four years of crap except the fact that something needed a change - and it wasn't my underwear.

Originally Posted by Blackmane

Firstly, attacking the christian right and making it their fault is mean-spirited.

Originally Posted by Blackmane

It is because people like you who keep perpetuating the idea that all the problems in our nation and abroad are created by one man. I am absolutely appalled that Democrats, liberals, Bush-Haters, are so ready to divide our nation further if Bush wins because you are a bunch of pompous snobs

Okay, half of what you said there was political rhetoric I think I've heard several times from the Bush administration. That said, I think it can also be said that calling all Democrats, Liberals, and Bush-Haters pompous snobs is more than a little mean-spirited. If all Democrats, Liberals, and Bush-Haters are pompous snobs, then all Republicans, Conservatives, and Bush Brown-Nosers are Ignorant, Self-Rightious hicks.

Originally Posted by jeepnut

Maybe if liberals had made an effort to understand the religious-right and aleviate their concerns instead of simply considering themselves to "enlightened," Kerry may have won this election. Instead, your comments and others like them probably lost this election for Kerry by dividing this country and rallying the religious vote.

Rallying the religious vote? I never would have thought that Religious Fanatics couldn't tell that Bush's Christian talk is an election gimmick. Some of the things he said made me want to puke - and I had no idea that the same rhetorical bull**** would make somebody down south say "Amen, praise the Lord." I am a Christian man... But sometimes religion goes too far.

Originally Posted by Crono

If you don't like the fact that Bush won, give up your citizenship and move elsewhere (except Canada). I saw some American women on TV who did that, she now lives in Canada because she "couldn't" live in the US after Bush invaded Iraq. I just couldn't believe how she could betray her own country like that, she doesn't even deserve to live here.

And I have a feeling quite a few people will be moving to Canada. Particularly when the draft is reinstated. That woman didn't betray her country. There's nothing here to betray, and nobody to care when you're gone. It seems pretty simple - you live off the land. And if the grass turns sour you move to better pasture.

Originally Posted by Crono

Anyway, I am very happy that Bush won. Only because he seems the most determined to install democracy in the middle east, which could do wonders for not only the middle east, but also the rest of the modern world.

Both parties were interested in installing democracy in the Middle East. It's just that Bush wanted to do it by himself, without allowing any help from our foreign allies. Why do you think we have such a terrible reputation in Europe right now?

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Oh, whats that I taste? I believe its called sour grapes.

Neo, I have to say your first post would be much funnier if it didn't reek of such desperation. You really have to get away from politics for a while because you have become unbalanced and are bordering on become a ranting raving loon.

Your boy lost by a huge margin of votes. The world hasn't ended. The sky isn't falling. Stop acting like Chicken Little.

You would think you could do with a little less gloating in your post.

It would probably have more effect on people if it didn't reek of I-told-you-so. You telling Neo to back away from politics is hillarious. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The force with which you argue would have had me checking both eyes in the mirror to see if I had popped a blood vessel.

Our "boy" did lose, and that's true. But whether or not the sky is falling is something to debate. I think some of you just can't see it yet.

As for the re-election, I am frustrated as you can probably tell. And I think we are ALL saying things that are important to us. So when month is over, and Christmas is coming I hope we can all be who we have been on the forums without remember the ugliness that Election 2004 has brought out in us (including myself).