Fine, you want it, you got it...
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Originally Posted by Dylflon
This is directed at you The Strangler. Notice I have not once in this entire thread argued with America's motives for going to war. Not only that but none of my statements have been Anti-American. My moral opposition to this war stems from the amount of people that are dying because of it.
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I didn't say your post was anti-american, I said Typhoids was in the first post. Thats what my first post was directed towards.
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Yet you want to yell at me for this. For believing that innocent people shouldn't die. Go ahead and "tear my argument to shreds". I'm sorry if I don't believe sacrificing people's lives is a way to solve a problem. I don't understand how you can manage to argue with me about what I'm saying (which so far has only been about casualties) unless you believe that human life is expendable and should be wasted on such trivial matters.
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LOL! Not only can I put together pretty much a air tight argument about this, but I'll repeat it yet again as I've repeated it before:
Saddam Hussein killed an estimated 1.5 million of his own people. To date, or at least the last time I checked, over 400,000 bodies have been found in mass graves in Iraq. That was a couple of months ago, though, so I'm sure that number has increased. You ramble on about how many lives have been lost "needlessly" because of this war, when all I can see are the tens of thousands of lives that have been saved. Now maybe you can imagine how I can argue with you about this.
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And what you're arguing with is my opinion. And I'd like to make sure you know that I'm entitled to having one. But just in case this idea of an opinion is hard for you to grasp, I'll break it down for you by using the dictionary definition.
A view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
Your manner of arguing is rather juvenile in my opinion.
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I don't argue with your right to have an opinion, but I would rather see your opinions be a little more well read and even handed. You claim to be more informed about the subject that you are expounding upon, but I have yet to see evidence of this. It looks more like you have spent time looking up the opinions of like minded individuals that will support your opinion regardless of their veracity.
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This is how your arguments go:
You're an idiot and what you believe is untrue and/or propeganda.
I have not called you wrong but have only stated what I believe.
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And I believe you shouldn't constantly voice an opinion that is not educated to the subject, and I will continue to voice MY opinion about that.
As for opinions actually based on FACT, please see my long post about WMD here:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...highlight=iraq
I really don't feel like typing it again.
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Continue to attack me for being against war if you wish. I will not change my mind.
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The perfect example of why I shouldn't even bother arguing with you about this in the first place. A closed mind is pointless to converse with.
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Most of these wars shouldn't be fought. And young men and women shouldn't be sent to die over these disputes.
If ever there's a day when I pick up a gun and fight, there will be a damn good reason I'm doing it.
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How very Politically Correct. I happen to think saving thousands of lives, freeing millions of people, and helping to protect out own country in the process is a damn good reason. I'd like to hear what you think a good reason would be.