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The Duggler

07-29-2003 09:55 AM

Another great idea by the US government

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...rror_market_10

:hmm:

Jason1

07-29-2003 11:58 AM

That seems very stupid.

gekko

07-29-2003 12:01 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

I give them props for creativity.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe

07-29-2003 12:21 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

:eek3:

...only in america :rolleyes:

Bube	07-29-2003 12:27 PM

Hey! I live in the middle east!

Make a prediction, send me some money, and I'll make sure your prediction comes true! You win, I win, who's complaining?

Vampyr

07-29-2003 12:52 PM

The two senators opposing this make me proud to be a democrat.

But seriously, this is ludicrous! You can just imagine the leader of some middle eastern country surfing the net, all of a sudden he comes upon a page where bookies are taking bets that someone is going to gun him down next week. Its going to be chaos when bets actually start to ensue.

I posted on another thread, the one about saddams sons confirmed dead, that America is doing stupid things that they dont have buisiness doing. Many people there forceably disagreed with me. Lets see them defend this.

Happydude

07-29-2003 01:02 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

...lol...pathetic...

GiMpY-wAnNaBe

07-29-2003 01:06 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by gekko

I give them props for creativity.

oh c'mon, even you must admit that this is a hairbrianed idea that only an idiot like G.W. Bush could come up with.... now america's like one big da*n casino

gekko

07-29-2003 01:18 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

Vampyr, we disagreed with you there because you were wrong :p

Anyway, as it said this is "part of a research effort 'to investigate the broadest possible set of new ways to prevent terrorist attacks.'" Glad some people in the Pentagon have an imagination. You take a topic such as investing, and try to create some ways it could be used to their advantage, and you end up with this. Stupid idea, has way too many political problems to ever actually go into effect, but it brings the idea to the table, and in some point in the future some ideas created by this project may be taken for a new program. But that leads me to the next problem.

While there could be ways to use the stock market to detect terrorist attacks, if our country needs to use the stock market for intelligence, George Tenet not only needs to be fired immediatly (he does anyway), but Clinton needs to make a public apology for allowing him to become DCI during his administration.

gekko

07-29-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe

oh c'mon, even you must admit that this is a hairbrianed idea that only an idiot like G.W. Bush could come up with.... now america's like one big da*n casino

Only thing I'll admit is that it takes a hairbrained idiot to use Bush as a scapegoat for everything that goes on in the world.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe

07-29-2003 01:33 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by gekko

Only thing I'll admit is that it takes a hairbrained idiot to use Bush as a scapegoat for everything that goes on in the world.

no arguements here :D

now i don't blame him for everything that goes on in the world, i only blame him for stupid things that happen that hes "supposed" to have control over, for example when candadian troops were killed by american troops, he said it was a mistake, but never did apologize, even when it was brought to his attention. And if a war starts with Iran (such as CNN is suggesting) than i definately will blame Bush for that because blah! after whats just happened in Iraq, they wanna put Iran through the same thing. Hey, maybe their looking for "Nucular weapons" and not nuclear ones, maybe thats why they havent' found them, cuz they're gonna have a hell of a time explaining another war to the world

Vampyr

07-29-2003 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gekko

Vampyr, we disagreed with you there because you were wrong

Anyway, as it said this is "part of a research effort 'to investigate the broadest possible set of new ways to prevent terrorist attacks.'" Glad some people in the Pentagon have an imagination. You take a topic such as investing, and try to create some ways it could be used to their advantage, and you end up with this. Stupid idea, has way too many political problems to ever actually go into effect, but it brings the idea to the table, and in some point in the future some ideas created by this project may be taken for a new program. But that leads me to the next problem.

While there could be ways to use the stock market to detect terrorist attacks, if our country needs to use the stock market for intelligence, George Tenet not only needs to be fired immediatly (he does anyway), but Clinton needs to make a public apology for allowing him to become DCI during his administration.

I still dont believe I was wrong, but Im not getting into that row again.

What you say is correct, but what scares me is that there are morons in the government who will think of things like this and others who will support it. Seriously, the fact that they have the guts to actually make a statement that this idea had passed through their heads either makes them brave to face the public opinion, or stupid. In my opinion, stupid.

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Originally Posted by Gekko

Only thing I'll admit is that it takes a hairbrained idiot to use Bush as a scapegoat for everything that goes on in the world.

Ill have to agree with Gekko. Im not saying Gimp is a hairbrained idiot, but George Bush could not possibly have thought of and put this into effect all by himself.

gekko

07-29-2003 01:52 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe

no arguements here :D

LOL. You're strange :D

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now i don't blame him for everything that goes on in the world, i only blame him for stupid things that happen that hes "supposed" to have control over

You would be surprised how much the President doesn't have control over. Thanks to the lovely system of checks and balances, the President doesn't always get his way, and they have little control in other large government agencies, like the CIA, FBI, and many things within the military. But the President plays scapegoat during his term, part of the job I guess.

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when candadian troops were killed by american troops, he said it was a mistake, but never did apologize, even when it was brought to his attention.

That's because it was a mistake. This was such big news because it happened to Canadian troops, but friendly fire incidents happen all the time to American troops. Take a look at the numbers in Iraq, non-hostile casualties are at a disturbing rate. Friendly fire is part of war, it happens, but this time it happened to someone else's troops. Not a good thing, but it's nearly impossible to uncover what went wrong in a situation like that. What is Bush supposed to apologize for, someone else screwing up? It's not Bush's mistake, I don't see why he would owe an apology. And the Canadian troops getting hit is not something Bush is supposed to have control over, going back to your earlier statement.

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And if a war starts with Iran (such as CNN is suggesting) than i definately will blame Bush for that because blah! after whats just happened in Iraq, they wanna put Iran through the same thing.

CNN shouldn't be suggesting anything, and if they are, change the channel immediatly. CNN should only report the facts, any suggestions should be commentary by various people who appear on their shows. Talk about war with Iran has been going on since they were named as part of the axis of evil. But the younger generation in Iran is likely to revolt, and overthrow their own government. That is far from a war with the US. That falls under the CIA's job.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe

07-29-2003 01:56 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by gekko

LOL. You're strange :D

You would be surprised how much the President doesn't have control over. Thanks to the lovely system of checks and balances, the President doesn't always get his way, and they have little control in other large government agencies, like the CIA, FBI, and many things within the military. But the President plays scapegoat during his term, part of the job I guess.

That's because it was a mistake. This was such big news because it happened to Canadian troops, but friendly fire incidents happen all the time to American troops. Take a look at the numbers in Iraq, non-hostile casualties are at a disturbing rate. Friendly fire is part of war, it happens, but this time it happened to someone else's troops. Not a good thing, but it's nearly impossible to uncover what went wrong in a situation like that. What is Bush supposed to apologize for, someone else screwing up? It's not Bush's mistake, I don't see why he would owe an apology. And the Canadian troops getting hit is not something Bush is supposed to have control over, going back to your earlier statement.

CNN shouldn't be suggesting anything, and if they are, change the channel immediatly. CNN should only report the facts, any suggestions should be commentary by various people who appear on their shows. Talk about war with Iran has been going on since they were named as part of the axis of evil. But the younger generation in Iran is likely to revolt, and overthrow their own government. That is far from a war with the US. That falls under the CIA's job.

hmm, never looked at many of those things in that way.... stupid CNN *muttering*

gekko

07-29-2003 02:03 PM

Re: Another great idea by the US government

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

I still dont believe I was wrong, but Im not getting into that row again.

I was just jokingly saying that I look at each issue differently. I side with the Republicans more often than not, but there are many issues where I side with the Democrats. This isn't a me against you issue, I disagreed with you there cause I think you were wrong there, doesn't mean I do now, nor do I see this issue being divided on party lines. Two Democrats oppose it, I don't see the Republicans supporting it. Even the Republican-controlled Senate wants to cut funding to the project.

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What you say is correct, but what scares me is that there are morons in the government who will think of things like this and others who will support it. Seriously, the fact that they have the guts to actually make a statement that this idea had passed through their heads either makes them brave to face the public opinion, or stupid. In my opinion, stupid.

For this particular program, I don't think it should've ever been made avaliable to the public. I think it should've been displayed amongst the research groups, and maybe tried something different using the basic idea, or file it away. What scares me is that they planned to register next week, if I remember correctly. It progressed way too far.

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Ill have to agree with Gekko. Im not saying Gimp is a hairbrained idiot, but George Bush could not possibly have thought of and put this into effect all by himself.

It was a Pentagon research group, Bush isn't running it. I haven't heard Bush support it either.

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