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Are SUV owners unpatriotic?
Criticizing SUVs and their owners is in vogue since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Critics say gas-guzzlers keep America hooked on foreign oil, compromising U.S. foreign policy.
Critics initially faulted sport utility vehicles because they produce more greenhouse gases than smaller vehicles. Then safety concerns were raised. Now, SUVs are drawing a different kind of protest. In Newton, Mass., last week, a dozen sport utility vehicles were spray-painted with ?No Blood for Oil? and other antiwar slogans. Check out your options. Record low rates could save you a bundle. Columnist Arianna Huffington is behind provocative new television commercials suggesting that people who buy the vehicles are supporting terrorists. ?I helped hijack an airplane,? says an actor portraying an ordinary American and SUV owner in one of the TV spots. A group calling itself Earth on Empty, in Somerville, Mass., is "ticketing" owners of SUVs for "failure to pay attention to your own behavior." A Pennsylvania-based environmental group last year announced a "What Would Jesus Drive?" ad campaign to urge consumers to park their SUVs. Few SUV owners are amused. Most say sport utility vehicles are superior in safety, convenience, performance and comfort. And they?re the ones buying the gasoline. Is it unpatriotic to own a SUV? |
These damn liberal groups.
We get less than 25% of our oil from the middle east, and that's the entire mid-east. 4% comes from Saudi Arabia. Anyone who thinks an attack against Iraq has anything to due with oil is a complete idiot. The US would be just fine without the middle east. We could get more oil from Russia, and from Africa, and we'd be set. We buy oil from the middle east for one reason, and one reason only, and that's to keep the fine balance in the middle east. We don't need them, at all. I'd rather people not drive SUVs for enviormental purposes rather than say "What would Jesus drive?" |
Not really...they may put out more gasses and whatnot...but if we call this unpatriotic, who knows what else we will call unpatriotic...
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Yeah, the U.S. doesn't get much oil from the middle east (though most other countries do), so technically all this 'Go Earth!' stuff is just crap.
But the government is willing to have those stupid commercials about how "If you do drugs you're a terrorist!," which are absolute bull****. Yet they don't make any commercials condemning gasoline in the same way, which I think has a same or closer link to terrorism. Why? Because our government is paid by oil companies. Just like illegal drug associations pay our government to say drugs are bad, so it keeps it underground and the prices high so the drug sellers keep raking in the money. Three things I think our government should do: Number One: :killpika: Well, that's just personal... ---------------------------------- Number One: Make weed legal, make laws on them similar to alcohol (only 21 or over, no weed while driving), and then put a huge tax on weed like they do for tobacco. Why? Price of weed drops way down because the supply is much larger while the government still makes a huge sum of cash on taxes. And eventually most of the people who want it would be growing it in their backyard. Not to mention there are many uses of weed besides smoking that could be very beneficial to the Earth, such as making paper out of it. Number Two: Make hard drugs legal for medical purposes. Maybe they should be made just as legal as I think weed should be, but I think they're too dangerous for that. Why? A lot of the hard drugs have a lot of potential for helping suffering people in hospitals, but since they are completely illegal absolutely no research can be conducted to explore their potential. Number Three: Tax the **** out of gasoline just like the government taxes tobacco and how they should tax weed. FORCE Americans to buy more efficient cars, or better yet, those new cars coming out within the next five-ten years that use fuel cells and have the engines in the wheels. Why? Obvious reasons. Helps the Earth :guitar: and doesn't help terrrorists, and eventually we're going to have to switch away from oil anyhow. ---------------------------------- I think those first two things could be very likely, while the third is very unlikely. First there's a certain strategy to sucking away all of the oil in the Middle East until they have nothing else and therefore will literally and figuratively be left in the dust in economy. Middle East ---> :bendover: :sniper: <--- World Also our American economy is heavily influenced by oil, so if oil is no longer in demand then it's likely our economy turns to ****. And then the American people wouldn't be happy about it unless the government explicitly said it was to hurt the Middle East or something. BTW, I thought criticizing SUV's was in vogue since forever? I loved back when gasoline prices were rising a couple years ago, all these dumbass SUV drivers complained about the price of gasoline while they drove $40,000 small tanks (Expeditions) while drinking bottled water that costs TEN times as much per gallon as does gas. |
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Hydrogen and electric fueled cars are the vehicles of tommorrow. My geology teacher got to drive a hydrogen fueled car when she went on a trip. I believe the first hydrogen station for California was installed recently also.
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What type of hydrogen? Sure hope it's not gas.
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Money used to buy hard drugs goes to drug cartels like you said, but that's hard drugs and not so much marijuana. But my problem with the commercials was that the government essentially called a bunch of Americans terrorists because they buy drugs. But did these Americans fly planes into the WTC? Do they bomb American buildings? Of course not. Now, with that said, I find your support for the drug commercials while being against oil commercials hypocritical. So that 25% of oil coming from the middle east doesn't count? Just because percentages are different it means it's ok? Well, if that's what you believe then ok. I don't support either commercial, because I think calling Americans terrorists because of indirectly supporting terrorists is extremely unfair. Quote:
I don't have proof on hand for drug associations supporting political parties and politicians in the same way as oil companies, so I'll retract what I said. I was told that by someone whom I'd trust to have a credible source, so until he gets back to me, I agree that what I said isn't true. Quote:
As for the price of illegal weed going up, the only illegal weed you could be talking about (assuming weed was legalized) would be the ones with other illegal drugs added in, and most weed users don't use that. Strong natural weed isn't something that couldn't be grown outside of where it's grown now. Also, drug addicts aren't the only ones buying weed. Yes, they are the ones buying it to get high, but hemp has been used for thousands of years all over the world and up until the 1930's in the U.S. for hundreds of uses. Hemp can be used for most everything that trees, cotton, and fossil fuels can be used for, while doing a much better job in most cases, and it doesn't hurt the soil, use as many chemicals, or hurt the environment like the other stuff does. And marijuana does not lead to the use of hard drugs. That is completely unproven and just propaganda. If anything, legalizing marijuana would lead to a decrease in use of hard drugs because buyers wouldn't have to go to a place that sells hard drugs to get weed (as is said in the quote above). http://www.hempfiles.com/faqs/hempfaq.shtml#1-1 There are probably a hundred sites like that now with huge faqs. This one has a bibliography of sorts citing numerous books, so I chose it. Quote:
But I meant hard drugs in particular. Absolutely no research is allowed on hard drugs while there could be a lot of potential in them as medical drugs. Quote:
But perhaps a gradual tax increase would do exactly what we need. It's not as if Americans couldn't recover; they did exactly that back in the 70's or whenever it was when gasoline prices hiked to alarming amounts for back then. And we could easily do it again, we would just have to adapt. Quote:
Seems to me if they have no money they would be another Africa, where they have nothing so nobody cares about them. Quote:
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I am going to respond, though your logic is so completely screwy, I wonder why I bother.
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There are probably a hundred sites like that now with huge faqs. This one has a bibliography of sorts citing numerous books, so I chose it. Quote:
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And in conclusion, if you're trying to help the issue with overpopulation, I respect your concearn, but this is not the way to do it. And if you're not, and you're serious, you need to lay off the weed. Drugs have no benefit to our country. |
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There are many many uses of hemp that I guess you're ignoring. Also, cannibus has been proven useful in medicinal uses and many states are clamoring to legalize it. Hard drugs also have potential in medicine but no research is allowed. I'm not promoting drug abuse of any kind (and I'm not promoting completely legalizing hard drugs if you somehow thought that). You know, alcohol is abused, cigarettes are abused, subcription drugs are abused, pain relievers are abused, and they're all legal to use in certain ways. Why completely shut the door to drugs with so much potential, especially hemp? As for oil companies donating to political parties you're just being completely naive if you don't think that happens. Heck, many politicians have their own money in oil. To me you're the one with the screwy logic, because you're just completely blinding yourself. I don't care about the commercials; to me that's an opinion and I told you what I thought. |
I believe that cutting our dependency on oil would be very beneficial not only to the environment, but it could help the middle east.
Right the Middle eastern countries make almost all of their money off of selling their oil. From this money, middle eastern leaders and dictators are able to stay in power by keeping control of the money source (oil) and keep control. Saddam Hussein gets a lot of his funding for armies, weapons, and chemical materials from other countries buying oil from him. Now, if we, and perhaps other countries who are major buyers of oil, suddenely (or gradually) started cutting dependency on oil by more fuel-efficient cars and alternate energy sources, then these bad rulers will not receive capital to fund any army or weapons. This destabilization will allow for new leadership to step in, whether by the people lashing out, or by some intervention by America. These countries, without having oil for money, will need new sources. Since they have nothing else really good in the middle east, they will have to start actually wielding the talents and skills of the people and their labor to bolster their economy. Human capital can be best used through democracy or some other form of gov. similar to democracy. Who knows, its possible. But just think, what is a country friendly to US? Kuwait. Does Kuwait have oil? No Hope my point makes some sense...and if it doesn't, oh well :p |
*wonders what a SUV is*
PS*didn't read the whole thread to see what a SUV is* |
Manasecret, I'm done with you. Think what you want, but your logic is flawed.
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SUV==Sport Utility Vehicle. It's a mix between a minivan and a truck. |
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hmm you have AOL too?
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