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KillerGremlin 02-10-2012 09:42 PM
Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
This has to be the most interesting article I have read all week:

http://orlandoweekly.com/news/sugar-coated-1.1269247

Quote:
Serena doesn’t want a boyfriend.

She’s a busy sophomore at a big university in the South. She’s focusing on a double major in advertising/public relations and English, and she works part time in retail.

“I don’t have time for a boyfriend,” she says in an email about her relationship status. “The fighting, the neediness, the emotional drainage.”

But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have time for her sugar daddy.

Last July, 20-year-old Serena (who did not want her full name revealed for this story) created a profile on a dating website called seekingarrangement.com. She filled in the typical relationship-website profile information: age, hair color, hobbies, ethnicity, what she’s looking for in a man – more specifically, though, from a sugar daddy.

She listed her expectations in the form of a monthly stipend. The site offers users choices, ranging from “negotiable” to a monthly allowance of $10,000 or more. Older men looking for sugar babies like Serena can search profiles and find girls they are compatible with, and whose stipend demands they can afford.

Once Serena’s profile was complete, she says, she went to bed and waited for it to be approved. When she checked the site the next morning, she was surprised to see the responses.

“Overnight, my profile was approved and went public,” she says. “I was overwhelmed – it was not just one message but 10 to 20 messages. [I felt] a mix of everything from flattered – a lot of funny and nice compliments, to disgust – some wild requests.”

Since joining in July, Serena has seen three men, but as of October, she was still weeding through her messages on two different sugar sites. One man in particular, whom she calls “Mr. Good” is “almost in the picture,” Serena says. She has seen him five times, she says, and thinks of him as “pot” – in sugar-baby speak, that means “potential sugar daddy.” According to Serena, a pot is “a man that you’re communicating with or meeting with, but who you still haven’t officially agreed to an arrangement with – an allowance, sex, larger time commitment.”

When women enter into arrangements with sugar daddies, the men usually agree to shower them with meals, trips, gifts and money in exchange for their company, which may or may not include sex.

Serena isn’t an anomaly. In fact, she is one of an increasing number of college women (and men) who are using the Internet to find “mutually beneficial relationships,” in which wealthy and older men connect with attractive, younger women looking for men to take care of them.

Although Dr. Phil, Anderson Cooper and various media outlets have criticized the sugar lifestyle, calling the relationships unhealthy, opportunistic or even predatory, the men and women involved disagree, saying theirs are no different than traditional relationships. Just like conventional relationships, sugar babies go on dates with potential sugar daddies before deciding whether to go further with them. Sex isn’t always part of the equation (though much of the time it is), and both sugar babies and daddies say the arrangements sometimes lead to more serious romantic relationships that aren’t based on money at all. Serena says Mr. Good’s previous arrangement with a sugar baby lasted a year, and the sugar daddy she met before him had a two-year arrangement, which ended when the sugar baby became engaged to someone else.

“They’re like regular relationships, minus all the negative, plus benefits,” she says. “In the beginning it’s almost businesslike: I expect X out of you – time, travel, gift, money, sex, etc., which should be discussed so both ends will be happy. … It makes it so much easier. There’s no drama, there’s no fighting, neediness, emotional drainage, time commitment, and then there’s the added benefits of money, gifts and travel.”
That's just the tip of the article. It's a bit of a long read, BUT IT IS REALLY INTERESTING. So click the link and read the article.


There was also a recent "I am a" on Reddit. This poster claims to have been a Sugar Baby. Some interesting comments in this reddit thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...ugar_baby_ama/


What do you all think?????

Typhoid 02-10-2012 11:35 PM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
This is semi off-topic. But I need a moment to rage on old-girls/young 'women' these days. Obviously not all of them are raging retards. Those ones I like. So when I refer to "them" or "women", I only mean the dumb ones, not all of 'em. Plus this is more of a joking rant than a real one. So, you know.
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Young women these days terrify me for what they expect, and what they strive for, and how they don't realize what's going on.

My favourite is the influx in girls not letting their boyfriends have "guys nights", or get mad when their boyfriend watches sports - yet they're allowed to have all the girls nights, and watch all the shitty shows they want - and so help you God if you try intervene in the middle of Idol or Glee, and don't even try paying attention to your sport when she's trying to talk to you during it. What kills me as that the girls who do that don't see how selfishly retarded they're being. It's just "the way it is" to them.


My...other... favourite of the female mentalities is the "I want equality at work, and equal pay! I want the same opportunity as the men I work with. Except I don't want to take initiative in relationships, I still want to be taken out for dinner and not ever have to pay for it. Equality for all! Now open my door, cancel your plans, buy me a nice big diamond ring, and oh yeah, thanks for dinner tonight! By the way, I'm having the girls over this weekend for a margarita girls night, so you and the guys are going to have to go watch the *mispronunciation of the sports team and/or players name* game somewhere else. Try not to get too drunk, though. I don't like you when you're drunk. And when you get back if you wouldn't mind trying to be as quiet as possible, me and the girls will probably have had too many margaritas and they'll be on the couches. And for the love of God put the toilet seat down."


Fuck you, leave the toilet seat up.
I don't want to touch that thing either, you piss all over it.
But you're usually shorter, and therefore closer to it, not to mention you're in a sitting position every time you use it, so you're right there every time. When you make your natural standing motion just hook your finger underneath it. Let leverage of your legs do the work for you, then it's not really like you're doing anything at all! Equality!


Edit: But to be fair I probably wouldn't mind having some nearly-dead sex-crazed skank pay for all of my shit, then give me everything once she dies. If that was a viable option I'm sure a lot of guys would do it. it might take a while to get over morally, but I'm sure with a few decades of handing everything to our sons, and pampering them we can craft a fine generation of strapping young men who expect to marry a rich woman because that way they don't have to do shit, because they're all Mommy's Little Princes.

Vampyr 02-11-2012 12:22 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to things like this - if it's consensual and between two adults...why not?

@Typhoid There are just as many, if not more, idiotic men. The problem I see is that men are willing to put up with a women who doesn't share any interests with him. I don't know why, maybe it's something biological.

What I fail to understand is why men pee standing up in their own, and other people's homes. Sit down, and you don't get pee everywhere. It's like fucking magic.

Typhoid 02-11-2012 12:28 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
Quote:
@Typhoid There are just as many, if not more, idiotic men. The problem I see is that men are willing to put up with a women who doesn't share any interests with him. I don't know why, maybe it's something biological.
Oh, there definitely are. I wasn't saying otherwise.

For some reason men (typically) like women who are completely different, and a woman (typically) tries to assimilate a man to like and do the things she likes and does. It's Natures cruel joke.



Edit: And sitting when you pee in someone elses house? Screeew thaaat. You've gotta make some noise. Really blast it out. Right in the middle there. The deep spot of the toilet. Let 'em know you're there, and how powerful of a male you are!

That was obviously a joke, but in all serious I've never once thought of sitting down while I pee.

KillerGremlin 02-11-2012 12:30 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
I dunno, I pee standing up because it's awesome. I feel like how God must feel when he is staring down at ants.

Typhoid 02-11-2012 12:39 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
I pee standing up because every day I like to witness the laws of gravity, and the interaction between the two liquids. Occasionally there's a bug in the toilet. Those days are good days. It's like opening up a box of cereal that has an extra toy in it that you can pee on.
Sometimes if you're feeling up for it you can even try blast a hole through some toilet paper that survived the flush just to prove you're still more powerful than soggy pulp. Maybe you've had a lot to drink and you want to see how many laps you can do, or even how silent you can pee.
There are so many advantages to standing to pee. Like not moving. Once you reach the toilet your job is relatively over, you just need to clear a path between your penis and the water in the toilet, then let gravity and siphoning do it's beautiful dance. You don't have any of that messy legwork involved with getting to the seat, and then off of the seat. If your legs are too tired you can always just brace yourself against the wall, piss like a King.

KillerGremlin 02-11-2012 12:51 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
I'm happy I'm not the only one. Peeing transports me back to a simpler, primitive time.

Vampyr 02-11-2012 12:54 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
I feel like guys who always pee standing up have never had to clean their toilet. I mean, there is splash back. There's a chance you could miss. It's just not nice to pee on someone else's property.

As to why I don't pee standing up in my home:

Typhoid 02-11-2012 12:57 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
The best primitive feeling was back in high school when you had back yard parties, bonfires/beach parties, and you'd get to pee outside, be it on someone's fence, tree, bush, sign post, playground equipment- and that was then your instinctive spot for the night. Your territory. You could never pee in an open field. You always had to pee on something.

How many times has "Yo man, fuck off. Go piss on that tree over there." been drunkenly shouted at outdoor parties.
In a simpler time that would have devolved to tribal warfare. Oh how far we've come!


Alright, I think I've done enough to this thread for now.



Edit: @Vamp: I actually do clean my own toilet, and floor. I'd have to clean those things anyways though considering I poop in the toilet, and walk on the floor with my shoes, so I just view that as a "meh" thing. I don't care if there's a little bit of piss splash on my cement floor, it'll all get cleaned in the end anyhow.
I'm not ragging on you for whatever you do, I'm really just joking - I don't care either way. You're allowed to do what you want. I just smoked a joint, wasn't trying to rip on you or anything. Just comedy mon ami.

KillerGremlin 02-11-2012 01:07 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
Haha "do you crap standing up." I love Curb.

I'm well aware of splash back, or when you double stream it. Or the very elusive triple stream. If you make a triple stream you pretty much know you're fucked. And then there is the morning wood pee where you extend like a plank with your arm against the wall supporting you so you can angle your junk down at the toilet. You can't do that sitting down! What now!

This website covers this challenge very nicely:

http://www.sexhax.com/peeing.html

I mostly do the plank:



But am a fan of the Superman:



Edit: I do wipe the bowl down, and I always clean my bathroom. I actually enjoy cleaning bathrooms. Give me that over vacuuming 8 days out of the week. I like scrubbing bathrooms more than dishes too. So that division of labor will probably work out in my favor in the future. As long as the people I share the bathroom with have the same courtesy to wipe the bowl, etc.

TheSlyMoogle 02-11-2012 09:20 AM
Re: Holy shit: Sugar Daddys
 
You guys do realize that women aren't the only ones doing this right?

Also, just lift the fucking toilet seat when you piss.


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