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BreakABone 11-08-2009 08:44 PM

new SMB Wii vs Modern Warfare 2
 
This isn't a thread to say which game is better or anything of the sorts.

Just wanted to see where GT told.

On last week's GameTrailers TV, Reggie declared that he believed new Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell Modern Warfare 2 during the holiday season. (I originally thought he meant combined, but it seemed like he meant the 360 version)

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archi...-2-On-360.aspx

Now just for historical reasons, this is the numbers from 2 years ago when Galaxy went head to head with the original Modern Warfare.

Quote:

November 2007 Top 10 Video Games Rank # Units
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 1 1.57 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 1.12 million
PS3 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 7 444K
And the following Dec,

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Top 10 SW Sales
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *1 1.47 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 1.40 million
So it was fairly close back then, but of course CoD MW for 360 won out.

In the two years that have passed, Modern Warfare's popularity has increased greatly, and will of course sell like gangbusters out of the gate.

Mario always does well, but will being 2D... help or hinder sales. Also, why the 4 player co-op help to sell more copies of the game... in a Wii Sports sort of way.

So Mario vs Modern Warfare 2... the holiday juggernaunt, who wins?

Fox 6 11-08-2009 09:39 PM

Re: new SMB Wii vs Modern Warfare 2
 
MW 2. Too much hype around it. Plus its new features and MP have been showcased to death.

Vampyr 11-08-2009 11:12 PM

Re: new SMB Wii vs Modern Warfare 2
 
I think MW2 will outsell it.

One big reason is I think they really screwed up naming the new mario brothers game. A lot of people think it's a port of the DS version.

gekko 11-09-2009 01:01 AM

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I somehow don't see 2D Mario being nearly as popular as a 3D. It seems more like an sidekick than a new Mario game. That being said, I enjoyed New SMB way more than Galaxy.

As for MW2, nothing can stop it.

BreakABone 11-09-2009 01:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 259824)
MW 2. Too much hype around it. Plus its new features and MP have been showcased to death.

Oh no doubt about it, MW 2 will sell like gangbusters.
But I'm thinking it may be like other big juggernaunts this gen which is heavily front loaded and falls off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 259825)
I think MW2 will outsell it.

One big reason is I think they really screwed up naming the new mario brothers game. A lot of people think it's a port of the DS version.

Yeah, Nintendo is terrible with marketing this generation.
Most people either think the game is some weird hybrid party game with single player tacked on or a port of the DS game.


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Originally Posted by gekko (Post 259831)
I somehow don't see 2D Mario being nearly as popular as a 3D. It seems more like an sidekick than a new Mario game. That being said, I enjoyed New SMB way more than Galaxy.

As for MW2, nothing can stop it.

Its hard to gauge but ALL 2D Mario games have outsold 3D Mario games.
If I'm not mistaken Super Mario 64 DS has been outsold by new Super Mario Bros DS. So I think 2D Marios are more popular, but I do feel like the 3D games are the main series now.

And yeah nothing can stop MW 2 because nothing has tried. Like every major release got moved into next year. :lolz:

Angrist 11-09-2009 08:55 AM

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I think a 2D Mario might sell better than 3D. Everybody can join in on the fun, where as some people just don't 'get' 3D Mario.

That being said, I have no idea. I never thought of picking up NSMBW until recently, when stuff started to look really fun. I don't care about MW2. I don't know how big it is.

ZebraRampage 11-09-2009 02:00 PM

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From the trends, it looks as though MW2 will have the edge. The fact that SMB Wii is 2D could affect this a bit, but there's no way to measure its impact until after the fact. I'm really looking forward to SMB Wii because of its connections to the older Mario games..

Bond 11-10-2009 12:35 AM

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Modern Warfare 2 will be the top selling game November-December. No question.

Vampyr 11-10-2009 09:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 259832)
Yeah, Nintendo is terrible with marketing this generation.
Most people either think the game is some weird hybrid party game with single player tacked on or a port of the DS game.

I feel like just naming it "Super Mario Bros. 4" would have been a good title.

BreakABone 11-10-2009 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 259881)
I feel like just naming it "Super Mario Bros. 4" would have been a good title.

As simple as that would be, I think the problem is that Super Mario World was branded with Super Mario Bros 4 in Japan.

And really with World and new Super Mario Bros DS, I don't think it would have been four either.

On the bright side, I think the commercials look pretty damn awesome.


Angrist 11-11-2009 03:32 AM

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Yeah those are ok. I wonder how many retro-gamers it will lure in.

Bond 12-10-2009 09:33 PM

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Well, looks like this wasn't very close:

TOP-SELLING SOFTWARE SKUs - NOVEMBER 2009
Title / Publisher / Units**
1) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (360) / Activision / 4,200,000
2) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) / Activision / 1,870,000
3) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) / Nintendo / 1,390,000
4) Assassin's Creed II (360) / Ubisoft / 794,700
5) Left 4 Dead 2 (360) / Electronic Arts / 744,000
6) Wii Sports Resort (Wii) / Nintendo / 720,200
7) Wii Fit Plus (Wii) / Nintendo / 679,000
8) Assassin's Creed II (360) / Ubisoft / 448,400
9) Dragon Age: Origins (360) / Electronic Arts / 362,100
10) Mario Kart Wii (Wii) / Nintendo / 315,000

Angrist 12-11-2009 06:38 AM

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The year isn't over yet... But ok, what Reggie said was stupid.

TheSlyMoogle 12-11-2009 02:00 PM

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I'm very surprised it wasn't much closer though. I though NSMB Wii would sell at least 3 million or more.

MW2 ugh... That game.

Angrist 12-13-2009 05:18 PM

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Remember that the year isn't over yet. :) MW2 is a hardcore game, I suppose hardcore gamers tend to buy their games fast. NSMBW is also a casual game, casual gamers are not in a hurry. Many might wait for Christmas.

Not that I care much about the coming months. I'm pretty sure NSMBW will end up with more sales than MW2 in a few years.


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