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Professor S 09-12-2008 08:56 AM

Sarah Palin Interview
 


How do you think she did? So far the pundit consensus has been mixed, but mainly due to political issues and not performance. Did she make any gaffes, or was she confident and professional in her answers?

TheGame 09-12-2008 09:32 AM

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She was good in the respect that she knew how to keep her mouth jabbing and kept her composure. But bad in the respect that her answers were defensive/evasive. Doesn't make her much different from others who get into politics.

GameMaster 09-12-2008 01:32 PM

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I didn't see the whole interview yesterday but that one part where Charlie asks if we have the right to cross the border with or without the consent of the Pakistani government... she fails to ever answer the question specifically and Charlie calls her out on that 2 or 3 times. He just asks her again because she just makes this real round-about ambiguous statements.

Jason1 09-12-2008 05:36 PM

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All I can say is I cant wait for the Vice Presidential debate. Oh my yes...Biden will eat this ho for dinner!

The Germanator 09-12-2008 05:58 PM

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I didn't think she did a very good job. She tried to exude a false sense of confidence that just came across as arrogant and nervous.

The "Bush Doctrine" question was a total debacle for her. "In what respect, Charlie" sounded exactly like a high school kid who doesn't have a clue what the answer is and is trying to stall for time.

She was generally evasive on national security questions as she kept referring "what I bring to the table" in terms of energy policy even though that's not what Gibson was asking her. The fact that she seriously thinks being able to see Russia from Alaska is a qualification is an absolute joke and I'm surprised the McCain campaign still is trying to use this. She also was a bit trapped by the NATO question regarding Georgia and Ukraine. I guess we're going to war with Russia...

There was another great moment where Gibson called her out on her "the war on Iraq is a mission from God" quote.

PALIN: Well, Charlie, I'm not sure those were my exact words...

GIBSON: Exact words

Way to go Sarah. She tried to play it off with the Abraham Lincoln nonsense, which was a pretty good dodge, but she kind of bungled that too.

She also mistakenly said that "if you look at the history of VP's, many have never met a world leader before taking office." A nice notion, but wrong. The VPs for the last 44 years had at least met a world leader, even Dan "effing" Quayle.

It wasn't a huge train wreck, but it wasn't good either. I think we know why McCain has hid her from any media event without a prepared speech. Seriously, how many times did she say "Charlie" and how obnoxious was that?

Definitely looking forward to October 2nd with her and Biden. Should be interesting.

Professor S 09-12-2008 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Germanator (Post 238983)
I didn't think she did a very good job. She tried to exude a false sense of confidence that just came across as arrogant and nervous.

The "Bush Doctrine" question was a total debacle for her. "In what respect, Charlie" sounded exactly like a high school kid who doesn't have a clue what the answer is and is trying to stall for time.

Actually, it turns out her response to that question was more appropriate than the media or Charlie Gibson would have you think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine

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She was generally evasive on national security questions as she kept referring "what I bring to the table" in terms of energy policy even though that's not what Gibson was asking her. The fact that she seriously thinks being able to see Russia from Alaska is a qualification is an absolute joke and I'm surprised the McCain campaign still is trying to use this. She also was a bit trapped by the NATO question regarding Georgia and Ukraine. I guess we're going to war with Russia...
Here's the thing: I agree with her. Both Georgia and the Ukraine should be in NATO and if they are attacked all NATO allies should respond as is demanded by the NATO charter.

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There was another great moment where Gibson called her out on her "the war on Iraq is a mission from God" quote.

PALIN: Well, Charlie, I'm not sure those were my exact words...

GIBSON: Exact words
Actually, those werwen't her exact words.



Here is what she said, and she said to pray that our War in Iraq was part of God's plan, because if it isn't then we would obviously being working and commiting violence against His wishes. If anything, it shows that she has doubts and conflicts about the war if she is asking people to pray that it is God's will.

I agree with the rest of your criticism's, but Charles Gibson was obviously hostile during the entire interview, and either was ignorant or deceitful in representing her stances on many issues. I thought she did well, considering.

Conversely, I find it hilarious that it has taken the media two weeks to dig more information up about Sarah's past and family while it took over a YEAR for them to even mention Reverend Wright, William Ayers or any of Obama's scandalous relations, and two seconds to forget them. I honestly NEVER want to hear anyone state that there isn't severe liberal media bias. That argument is bankrupt.

Jason1 09-12-2008 07:39 PM

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There isnt severe liberal media bias. Its all a bunch of bull. The media tells it how it is, simply put. The truth hurts sometimes, Professor.

Professor S 09-12-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason1 (Post 238987)
There isnt severe liberal media bias. Its all a bunch of bull. The media tells it how it is, simply put. The truth hurts sometimes, Professor.

I mean, if YOU say there is no bias, well then, it must not exist... you being the arbiter of all things fair and balanced

The Germanator 09-13-2008 12:07 AM

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I don't think there is bias. I feel like both sides get a lot of guff from the media. If anything, the main stream media is just horrible these days.

This article sums up a lot about how I feel about it. Of course, the author is probably just a "liberal", right? The facts he mentions about the media won't matter I guess.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa.../28/mcclellan/

EDIT: And I got the Palin quote wrong, I was going from memory. Remind me why "task from God" is any better than "mission from God?" I kind of get what you're saying, but not being a very religious person, it's a bit weird for me. A bit too "holy war" for me I guess.

And Charlie being harsh? He asked her a simple question about the Bush Doctrine. High schoolers are taught what the Bush Doctrine is in their text book these days and she has no clue what it is. I don't think he was harsh, I think he was absolutely befuddled that this woman might be our VP.

Remember Gibson at the Democratic debates?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041700013.html

He was horrible. This time he actually asked questions about a candidate's policies which people haven't been doing enough of lately.

McCain on the View today was fairly humorous as well...

Bond 09-13-2008 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Germanator (Post 238992)
And Charlie being harsh? He asked her a simple question about the Bush Doctrine. High schoolers are taught what the Bush Doctrine is in their text book these days and she has no clue what it is. I don't think he was harsh, I think he was absolutely befuddled that this woman might be our VP.

This is humorous.

I, personally, could not give a cut-and-dry answer if asked to define the "Bush Doctrine." Perhaps this is because: 1) the "Bush Doctrine" has changed throughout Bush's presidency and 2) Bush's presidency is not yet over.

I can, however, give you a nuanced and intricate answer as to what the "Bush Doctrine" is... sound like anyone else we may know?


And the polarization begins.

Teuthida 09-14-2008 06:27 AM

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Professor S 09-14-2008 09:33 AM

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I find Matt Damon's comments to be a direct reflection of the sheer hippocracy of many Obama supporters. How do you criticize her experience, as she is running for Vice President, and not Barack Obama who is running for PRESIDENT who has barely more experience on a national stage and less than her as an elected official?

Its this kind of willful blindness that drives me nuts, and honestly, drives a lot of independent minded voter's nuts. All they're doing is bringing more attention to Barack Obama's inexperience, as he is the one running for national office.

And Germ, you make decent mpoints that center on one event in American history, but you must remember that ther majority of politicians, both right AND left were for the Iraq War as it began, so I really don't you can call that as an example of media bias. That and Scott McClellan was and is an idiot who was given the position as more of a favor to his daddy, a practice I've always disliked that Pres. Bush took part in. Still, how do you explain the run-up to this election and the severe, and I mean SEVERE disparity in the coverage in both time given AND the tone in which the news is given?

TheGame 09-14-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 239038)
I find Matt Damon's comments to be a direct reflection of the sheer hippocracy of many Obama supporters. How do you criticize her experience, as she is running for Vice President, and not Barack Obama who is running for PRESIDENT who has barely more experience on a national stage and less than her as an elected official?

Its this kind of willful blindness that drives me nuts, and honestly, drives a lot of independent minded voter's nuts. All they're doing is bringing more attention to Barack Obama's inexperience, as he is the one running for national office.

I don't know about all that the hippocracy isn't in his opinions on it, its in the fact that Mccain chose her dispite using inexperience as a weapon against Obama. He picked someone less experienced on the national stage, and who a lot less people even know about. I think anyone who was bashing Obama for lack of experience, but who is now strongly supporting Palin are the biggest hypocrites there are personally.

(Yes, I'm twisting it back.)

The truth of the matter is the majority of the people are going to vote off of who's in the party they support regardless of how unfit they are for the job. They'll find every reason to defend their canadate and bash the others even if they share in the same downfalls. Most "democrats" and "republicans" are guilty of this.

I think that palin's a cool person with a cool story, but I really think Mccain picked her for all the wrong reasons. It just makes a bigger joke of what this whole election is. If Obama and Mccain are the only two people left fit to be president, then this country is pretty sad right now.

Dyne 09-14-2008 02:33 PM

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Hahaha, they were bashing that Damon interview on the Adam Carolla show, I think it was. Let me point out one thing that completely invalidates his opinion:

"McCain has a 1/3 chance OR MORE of surviving his first term and then oh look IT'S PRESIDENT PALIN."

The actual number was that McCain's chance of survival was 1/3 for two terms, not one term. I think someone got a little upset and rushed to judgements a little early.

Dylflon 09-14-2008 04:43 PM

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I have a really good idea for a drinking game.


Every time a right-wing, ultra-biased television personality or reporter whines about the "liberal media", everyone takes a drink.

And since there are so many ultra-conservative TV personalities, who are ultra-biased, and straight out maliciously attack the left wing, we'd all get really drunk.

I think we could call it

The Pot Calls the Kettle Black: Drinking Game Edition


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