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El Gaucho Goof 03-19-2002 03:48 PM

Rare on X-Box Rumor
 
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Just in from the rumor mill, Gaming-Age has found out "from a reliable source" that Microsoft just this morning might be picking up Starfox Adventures developer Rare. This information was gathered from a "Microsoft insider email" which says this:

I have heard that Rare are being bought out by Microsoft. I can’t say where i have heard this but apparently Activision were also interested but Microsoft have a done deal.

This was due to a bad relationship with Nintendo and they are also finding it hard to develop for the Gamecube.
Well I don't know how much turht there is to this rumor and I really don't know how much grounds it's hold but interesting none the less.

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Old Skool 03-19-2002 05:25 PM

Sounds like crap to me if they were not gettting on with the Big N they would go 3rd party. But it would be real nice if it was true

Bond 03-19-2002 05:36 PM

Re: Rare on X-Box Rumor
 
If the person that sent the e-mail doesn't even know to capitalize your 'I's' then I'd say it's not very credible.

Perfect Stu 03-19-2002 05:48 PM

that's a load of bull

Bond 03-19-2002 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
that's a load of bull
Well, it is from the 'rumor mill.'

DeathsHand 03-19-2002 06:09 PM

This is probably how the rumor started...

"*Xbox fan hears that SFA is delayed again*

Xbox fan: 'DELAYED!? TEY MUST BE HAVEING TRUBEL DEVELOPING FOR GAYCUBE! AND THEY AREN'T HAVEING A GOD TIME GETTIN ALONG WITH NINTENOD! THEY WIL DEVELOPE FOR X-BOX!' "

... *cough*

Perfect Stu 03-19-2002 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by DeathsHand
This is probably how the rumor started...

"*Xbox fan hears that SFA is delayed again*

Xbox fan: 'DELAYED!? TEY MUST BE HAVEING TRUBEL DEVELOPING FOR GAYCUBE! AND THEY AREN'T HAVEING A GOD TIME GETTIN ALONG WITH NINTENOD! THEY WIL DEVELOPE FOR X-BOX!' "

... *cough*

:-|

Drunk Hobbit 03-19-2002 06:26 PM

What about those holiday pics from Rare with an Xbox shaped present under the tree? I wouldn't be surprized to see Rare begin to develop for other consoles. But if they do, GameCube doesn't have a fighting chance.

BreakABone 03-19-2002 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Danchastu
What about those holiday pics from Rare with an Xbox shaped present under the tree? I wouldn't be surprized to see Rare begin to develop for other consoles. But if they do, GameCube doesn't have a fighting chance.
This is exactly why I don't think you will see Rare going away anytime soon. Nintendo just can't afford to use them and I'm sure Nintendo is well aware of that. But if this does come true.. well let's just hope it doesn't

Perfect Stu 03-19-2002 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by BreakABone
But if this does come true.. well let's just hope it doesn't
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!

I would love to see Rare develop for other systems!

Then every next gen gamer gets Rare's great games...

:)

But it's gosh-darn not happening anytime soon...I don't think...so...:unsure:

BreakABone 03-19-2002 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu


SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!

I would love to see Rare develop for other systems!

Then every next gen gamer gets Rare's great games...

:)

But it's gosh-darn not happening anytime soon...I don't think...so...:unsure:

Well it would be nice to experience it on the Ps2 and X-box but that will really..and I mean really be a dagger in the heart of Nintendo.. and I highly doubt Rare will do it.. I'm not too sure but I think Nintendo owns the rights to some of their characters.. besides Donkey Kong and StarFox..we will just see

Jason1 03-19-2002 08:22 PM

They can go ahead and devolp for other systems for all I care, all they do is delay their game like hell anyways...

well seiorusly, I doubt its happening, and I dont want it to happen...Rare on a non-nintendo system just wouldnt be right...

Xantar 03-19-2002 10:31 PM

You wouldn't want Rareware going third party and developing for all systems, and here's why:

Their delays. Much as you hate them, they do improve the games. And to produce the top notch quality games that Rareware does, they need a lot of time. And they won't have that time if they go third party. Their last home console game was Conker's Bad Fur Day which was released around this time last year if I remember correctly. Their next game will be Star Fox Adventures to be released in September, at least a year and a few months after their last game, even if I'm incorrect on CBFD's launch date. Third parties can't survive on one game a year. Even if we take into account the GBA games Rareware is producing (and I don't know what the launch dates are for their GBA games), I highly doubt that they would be able to support all 200 members of the company.

So if Rareware goes third party, they will probably lay off several employees and produce games faster without taking the time to tweak everything to perfection. The result is a decrease in the quality of their games. There's no telling how much their game quality would drop, but I think it's safe to say that they wouldn't be quite the same Rareware.

The only reason they are allowed to take so long on their games is their relationship with Nintendo. The pattern is similar with other second parties. Look at how long it's taking for Silicon Knights, Retro and Bungie (Halo took 2 years) to make a single game. This way of doing business wouldn't work in the third party world. But so far, I think it's safe to say that it produces results.

Truthfully, if Bungie were a third party and Halo was a poorer game as a result of the smaller development time, I wouldn't see it as a plus that Halo is coming to GameCube. The way things are now, I can at least find some friend who owns an Xbox and borrow his if I really want to play Halo so badly.

BreakABone 03-20-2002 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Xantar
You wouldn't want Rareware going third party and developing for all systems, and here's why:

Their delays. Much as you hate them, they do improve the games. And to produce the top notch quality games that Rareware does, they need a lot of time. And they won't have that time if they go third party. Their last home console game was Conker's Bad Fur Day which was released around this time last year if I remember correctly. Their next game will be Star Fox Adventures to be released in September, at least a year and a few months after their last game, even if I'm incorrect on CBFD's launch date. Third parties can't survive on one game a year. Even if we take into account the GBA games Rareware is producing (and I don't know what the launch dates are for their GBA games), I highly doubt that they would be able to support all 200 members of the company.

So if Rareware goes third party, they will probably lay off several employees and produce games faster without taking the time to tweak everything to perfection. The result is a decrease in the quality of their games. There's no telling how much their game quality would drop, but I think it's safe to say that they wouldn't be quite the same Rareware.

The only reason they are allowed to take so long on their games is their relationship with Nintendo. The pattern is similar with other second parties. Look at how long it's taking for Silicon Knights, Retro and Bungie (Halo took 2 years) to make a single game. This way of doing business wouldn't work in the third party world. But so far, I think it's safe to say that it produces results.

Truthfully, if Bungie were a third party and Halo was a poorer game as a result of the smaller development time, I wouldn't see it as a plus that Halo is coming to GameCube. The way things are now, I can at least find some friend who owns an Xbox and borrow his if I really want to play Halo so badly.

Actually, you are pretty correct on the date of CBFD. The simple fact is that 2001 wasn't a busy year for the company. Not that they ever oversaturate the market with their games but it was a bad year. I mean in 2000 I believe they released like 2-3 home console games.

Anyhow you are right. No matter how big the Rare game is no company can really survive on a game a year.

And the fact that Rare would have to cancel some of it's most anticiapted games like StarFo and DKR to go 3rd party really doesn't seem likely.

thehtownpoption 03-21-2002 11:36 AM

Does this happen to be an April Fool's thing? Because it doesn't sound likely.


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