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GameMaster 05-25-2004 09:16 PM
Major Terror Attack Planned This Summer
 
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/25/ter...eat/index.html

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(CNN) -- Several U.S. officials said Tuesday that unnamed terrorists, possibly al Qaeda operatives, are in the United States and planning a "major attack" on U.S. soil this summer.

Officials said the attacks might take place before the November presidential election in an attempt to affect the outcome, similar to the way the Madrid train bombings influenced Spanish elections.

The FBI is likely to issue several alerts for several individuals the bureau would like to locate in the coming days, two counterterrorism sources told CNN.

The sources would not describe who those persons are and why they are wanted now. One source said the bureau would be re-issuing alerts for some people already wanted.

Although there is no specific target, time or date for the possible attack, the information on the threat is the culmination of intelligence that has been known and gathered over a period of time -- and it is the assessment that is new, the sources said.

Despite the possible threat of attack, CNN has learned there is no plan to raise the terror threat level, which is at yellow, or elevated.

The FBI is expected to give guidance to its 18,000 state and local law enforcement partners in the regular weekly FBI bulletin Wednesday.

FBI Director Robert Mueller and Attorney General John Ashcroft will hold a news conference Wednesday to discuss their commitment to disrupting potential plots, CNN has learned.

For weeks, security officials have expressed concern about several upcoming high-profile events, including Saturday's dedication of the National World War II Memorial on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.

Other potential targets include the G8 economic summit on Sea Island, Georgia, Fourth of July celebrations, the Democratic convention in Boston, the Republican convention in New York, and the Olympics in Greece.

Officials said security will be unprecedented for World War II Memorial dedication. More than 140,000 people, many of them elderly, are expected for the event. (Full story)

More than 35 federal, state and local agencies have been involved in planning for the event for a year now.

Some 1,000 law enforcement officers are expected to be on hand in addition to special support and response teams. The U.S. Park Police is spearheading the security effort.

The national terror threat alert level was raised to orange, or high, over the Christmas and New Year holidays last December and January. It has been at yellow since January 9.

Before that, the United States last raised the domestic terrorism threat level to orange May 20, 2003, after suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia and Morocco that were blamed on al Qaeda. That alert lasted 10 days before the threat level was returned to yellow.

Other orange alerts were raised in 2002 around the first anniversary of the September 11 attacks and in February 2003, on the eve of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March.
This is kind of scary. But knowing the FBI is out there making the world safe for me makes everything feel better. Anyway, everyone just try to stay calm.

Jason1 05-25-2004 09:18 PM
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Bah, they have had that alert system on the high alert how many times? And how many times has something actually happened? Now I know they are just informing us to try to keep us safe, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Seth 05-25-2004 09:35 PM
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Keep a nation afraid and everything is good.


The colour coded terror meter makes me laugh everytime i see or hear about it. What a joke.


Scenario: This terrorist attack actually happens right before the presidential elections. Questions will be raised. "It seems like too much of a coincidence that another terrorist attack occurred right before Bush is taken to the polls."

but wait, the government issued a warning that they had 'intelligence' of a possible terror attack this summer. Seems like a nice backup. I mean, if they warn us ahead of time and it actually happens, then it must be some Arab terrorist group right?

The article also mentions that this attack might occur to influence the voters like it did in Spain. Are they implying that an attack would carry the democrats into office just how the opposition party in Spain gained power? This is dumb. Attacks of terror unify a country(as demonstrated by 9/11). If anything, it would garner support for the Bush administration. The terrorists want that right? :sneaky:

The only reason why the opposition party in Spain made it into office was because the Spanish people wanted that government before the bombing in Madrid occurred. That bombing wasn't enough to keep the current politcal party in power.

of course this is all just retarded speculation that could never actually be real. Everything that is fed to us by the government is the truth.

lol, ya.

Crono 05-25-2004 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bouncer_agb
Keep a nation afraid and everything is good.
Sounds like something Stalin would say. But it's true. Very true.

Dyne 05-25-2004 10:00 PM
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Oh, yeah, right, weren't they supposed to attack Canada too? You know, we have a federal election over here too, soon.

The Germanator 05-25-2004 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyne
Oh, yeah, right, weren't they supposed to attack Canada too? You know, we have a federal election over here too, soon.
Canada isn't important enough to be attacked. :cool:

Crono 05-25-2004 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Germanator
Canada isn't important enough to be attacked. :cool:
Ah... so I guess some of the world's largest supplies of lumber, fresh water, minerals and natural resources isn't important enough. :p

Null 05-25-2004 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Crono
Ah... so I guess some of the world's largest supplies of lumber, fresh water, minerals and natural resources isn't important enough. :p

they live in the desert. what are they going to do with lumber?

they use clay.



:sneaky:

The Germanator 05-25-2004 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crono
Ah... so I guess some of the world's largest supplies of lumber, fresh water, minerals and natural resources isn't important enough. :p
Are you making a case that your country is important enough to be attacked by terrorists? It's a no win situation. :p

Stonecutter 05-26-2004 12:10 AM
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Anyone ever go to the hospital when the terror level was at "orange."


It's a total pain in the ass having to check in and check out, and getting hassled by the goons, but it's not going to do anything to stop terrorists should they feel like destroying something.

what a joke.

Typhoid 05-26-2004 12:35 AM
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I think the whole terror system is a joke. Like Bouncer said, keep your Nation afraid, and they stay unified.

Look at it this way if there was no "terror colour" or whatever teh F*** they are called, and there was an attack, the Nation of America would be split. One group (more or less) saying that its Bush's fault they didnt know, and the other group (more or less) saying that they didnt know enough to relay it to the people.

So what do they do? They issue colours to represent fear. Colours. No Sh*tting...What the F*** is that anyways? Its the stupidest thing ive heard of, maybe something more sensible, like "High terror alert" or "low terror alert"...but NO! They have to make it difficult in knowing which colours are bad. Abd who are they to judge which is and isnt a terror colour?

If i was an American (Which i can proudly say i am not, because i am proudly Canadian) I wouldnt want my kid to learn the Terror Rainbow.

Jonbo298 05-26-2004 01:27 AM
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eh, I wont worry about this. Even though its good to inform us something may happen, being in the Midwest I highly doubt anything will happen here. Best bet will be they will try something at the republican/democrat national conventions since a crap load of important people and just people in general will be at them, let alone the amount of live media coverage there will be to add fuel to the fire.

Dark Samurai 05-26-2004 08:03 AM
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I bet during this so-called "terrorist" attack, Osama will be "miraculously" captured, just in time for the election. Remember when Bush "secretly" went to Iraq, and Saddam was "suddenly" captured? Same thing.

mickydaniels 05-26-2004 08:08 AM
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It makes me laugh.

At any rate, I thought it was based on the colors of the rainbow. So why is green the lowest alert level, and blue the step right above? I must have learned about the color wheel many moons ago. :shakehead

Dylflon 05-26-2004 01:12 PM
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Canada is improtant enough to be attacked by terrorists! How dare you say it's not!? I'll show you! When we get attacked by terrorists I'll laugh in your faces.

j/k

No, seriously, Canada has a massive amount of useful exports that countries all over the world buy.

The only reason we don't get attacked by anyone is the fact that we're so neutral and don't go stirring things up with other nations. I mean, why bother attacking a neutral country?

Crash 05-26-2004 01:22 PM
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that's why I like canada.... they are not all pompous idiots like we are here in america. in america we wanna fix everyone elses problems just to show how we are the worlds babysitter. if i were to guess, i'd say america as a country wont last more than 100 years more.

Dylflon 05-26-2004 01:27 PM
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Well, all world powers never stay the top world power forever. Britain used to be the biggest world power. And at one time is was Rome. And Greece I bleieve was the biggest world power at one point.

The biggest trend I've noticed between these top world powers is that while they're in power they start quite a few wars.

I hope the next big world power is friendly.

mickydaniels 05-26-2004 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylflon
I hope the next big world power is friendly.
That's impossible as history constantly repeats itself. You can't be powerful without inspiring fear and contempt.


I hope the next big world power is in Africa.

Neo 05-26-2004 03:49 PM
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Consider GameTavern to be your official terror shelter. Retreat here when the bombs start to drop.

Crono 05-26-2004 03:57 PM
Re: Major Terror Attack Planned This Summer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickydaniels
I hope the next big world power is in Africa.
Keep dreaming, my friend. :)

The next world power will be China. Even if Communism falls in China (which it will), an eventual modern China will rise out of it. Even right now, the People's Liberation Army (China's Army) is the largest standing army in the world. And the number of men fit for service exceeds the population of any country except India. I think the official number of men fit for service is like... 260 million. That's not it's army, just the number of possible men it could draft.

Right now China just doesn't have the wealth and military technology to do much. But, I know that one day China will rise to either rival or even take over America's power and influence. Time is the only variable here.

Also I had a dream that I was shot while in a war with China. Kind of weird, but I think it's predicting something... maybe.

Joeiss 05-26-2004 05:35 PM
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The only reason why Canada does not start **** with other countries is because our military blows chunks compared to other big countries.

Dyne 05-26-2004 06:02 PM
Re: Major Terror Attack Planned This Summer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
Keep dreaming, my friend. :)

The next world power will be China. Even if Communism falls in China (which it will), an eventual modern China will rise out of it. Even right now, the People's Liberation Army (China's Army) is the largest standing army in the world. And the number of men fit for service exceeds the population of any country except India. I think the official number of men fit for service is like... 260 million. That's not it's army, just the number of possible men it could draft.

Right now China just doesn't have the wealth and military technology to do much. But, I know that one day China will rise to either rival or even take over America's power and influence. Time is the only variable here.

Also I had a dream that I was shot while in a war with China. Kind of weird, but I think it's predicting something... maybe.
I wonder if China would ally with the Koreas; they'd have their hands around some serious firepower if they did.

Crono 05-26-2004 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyne
I wonder if China would ally with the Koreas; they'd have their hands around some serious firepower if they did.
Probably not. They'd probably just annex them to China.

Bond 05-26-2004 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyne
I wonder if China would ally with the Koreas; they'd have their hands around some serious firepower if they did.
China definitely does not want a nuclear-armed Korean peninsula. In fact, China will most likely be the one who peacefully disarms North Korea.

Crono 05-26-2004 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
China definitely does not want a nuclear-armed Korean peninsula. In fact, China will most likely be the one who peacefully disarms North Korea.
Yet they have missiles pointed at Taiwan, threatening to blow it to pieces if it ever declares full independence.

Dyne 05-26-2004 06:30 PM
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Yeah, China's only concerned with Taiwan right now, I forgot about that.

Typhoid 05-26-2004 06:40 PM
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They ( China) will probably do what Hitler did with Stalen. Sign a non-aggression pact....then attack them without provocation.

But i do have a feeling all of the Asian countries (excluding Russia) will semi-form an alliance. Not arming them or anything, but doing what America did with Canada, Britain etc. By just trying to influence their opinion on the other freindly nations.

Dylflon 05-26-2004 06:50 PM
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Like an asian NATO?

Crono 05-26-2004 07:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
They ( China) will probably do what Hitler did with Stalen. Sign a non-aggression pact....then attack them without provocation.

But i do have a feeling all of the Asian countries (excluding Russia) will semi-form an alliance. Not arming them or anything, but doing what America did with Canada, Britain etc. By just trying to influence their opinion on the other freindly nations.
China hates Japan.
Japan hates China.
The South Eastern Asian countries hate China, and Japan.
India hates China.
Pakistan hates India.
India hates Pakistan.
Iran hates Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US (who are in Iraq right now).
Actually everyone in the Middle East hates Israel.

Do you see where I'm headed with this? Eastern people do not think like us, nor will they act like us. They hate each other and there are even declarations of war between a few countries (ie. Pakistan and India).

The chances of it happening?... very slim. At least the European nations have something in common: they're white Christians (majority wise). They get along much better.

Also, it's STALIN, not "Stalen" :p

Typhoid 05-26-2004 07:04 PM
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When i said asian countries, i meant the stereotypical ones, like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc. But yes, i do realize that they all hate China..well, i know it now.

But if China was smart, in order to be a world power, you need close allies, you cant have all enemies. No, im not defending China, i particularily dont want China to ever be a world power. But if they were smart, they would try to patch up the holes with their neighbouring countries.

Crono 05-26-2004 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
When i said asian countries, i meant the stereotypical ones, like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc. But yes, i do realize that they all hate China..well, i know it now.

But if China was smart, in order to be a world power, you need close allies, you cant have all enemies. No, im not defending China, i particularily dont want China to ever be a world power. But if they were smart, they would try to patch up the holes with their neighbouring countries.
Their problem with Japan is that Japan refuses to apologize to China for it's GENOCIDES in China during WWII. Search on Google for "The Rape Of Nanking", and put yourself in China's situation. That genocide has haunted China for decades and Japan won't even admit it happened, and it's not even taught in Japanese schools (not taught much or at all here, either). Would you want to be "friends" with a nation who humiliated your people? Probably not. At least Germany has admitted to it's crimes (unlike Japan and Turkey).

Also, South Korea and Japan are the two main capitalist countries in Asia. They would never ally with communists (China and North Korea).

I know what your trying to say... but it's impossible.


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