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what exactly are you tryin to compare?

graphics? i think basically everyone realizes that PSP does better graphics. And for the target audience of each handheld i dont think the graphics matter.

PSP will go for older people who want to use it for more of a portable media player as well as play some games

DS will go for the younger ones who want a ton of games

as far as games go for me. i outgrew the appeal of a portable system long long ago. but PSP has me interested to play movie files on. dunno if i'll get it. but it has me interested at least.

DS basically i feel will be like any gameboy. so i dont plan on going anywhere near it.

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I'm showing graphics. Yes.

I thought that was pretty obvious.

I haven't seen anybody post any DS in-game screenshots... why not compare them to PSP? It's only fair that the two handhelds are put side to side.

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*doesn't care much about graphics*

If I want gorgeous games, I'll play them on my console. :)

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Ugh... I hate that I'm even going to state this but...

If DS had better graphics people who like Gameboy would use it as a reason that DS is better... but because PSP had better graphics the people who still want a DS will say Graphics are irrelevant. And yes, it works both ways. ;)

So with that said, I've never been much of a fan of handhelds except before my Pokemon days. But PSP brings games to the table that I am interested it. MGS and Gran Turismo are two of my favorite games... if it has a decent version of Madden and a more classic Tony Hawk (THPS1-3 style), I would say by FAR it's better than DS. I don't care for the extra features all too much, but the game line up is jaw-dropping in my opinion.

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I want to play new handheld versions of Mario and Zelda games, so I'll get a DS, it's as simple as that. I was raised on classic Nintendo games, so I need no better reason to think I'll enjoy DS. That said, PSP looks fantastic. I'm afraid it just has too many features which will up the cost. I don't need a portable movie player or whatever else it does...I just don't...I'll play my Sony titles on the big screen.

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PSP graphics are awesome for a handheld, and so are DS's (though PSP is the superior, as I conclude from the given screenshots)... but I like 2D games on my handhelds. I'm hoping that PSP and DS won't kill 2D gaming in the way that Playstation and N64 did.

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the nintendo 64 did way better than the dreamcast because of games. sure the graphics were better on the dreamcast, but it didn't boil down to that.

the black and white gameboy did better than the color sega gamegear. the gamegear had wayyy better graphics, but nintendo killed em. that is due to games, and battery life.... depending on the price of the psp, i might just get both, but i'm definately getting the ds because of the games.

Nintendo is doing Metroid hunters to remind us a little of what goldeneye was on the 64, mario 64 because, well it's mario 64. all we need now is a new waverace, super smash brothers, and starfox.

originally i knew i was going to get a PSP and not a DS, but sony is so far behind, and it reminds me a lot of the n-gage as far a looks go. I'm just used to flip designs now.

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1. The Dreamcast came out 3.5 years after the N64. Stupid comparison.

2. Game Gear drained 6 batteries in 2 hours. (I have one) and was a brick.

3. The new Metroid is Prime: Echoes in worse graphics (the multiplayer at least


This makes DS look like a toy. GBA:SP is nice and cool... DS is not.

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The DS makes me crap my pants. Kickass wireless functions, touch screen to draw, microphone support to talk to your games (like Fire Emblem.. commanding your troops =o) and to talk to other people... man. PSP may play games and movies, but.. DS.. Oh god. Oh SNAP.

Really, the battery life for the PSP is going to be like, what, 2.5 hours. That's no good for a plane ride.

Just the GAMES on the DS.. christ, I've always wanted an Animal Crossing portable version, and the Wario Wares sounds AWESOME.

PSP is the same old crap. GT game, MGS game. Sure, it's got a big screen, nice graphics. I can't imagine having FUN with it like I will with the DS.

Besides, (damage control), that's not the final design and name for the DS.. they've said that.

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PSP's graphics are definately better, but after seeing both (although I only saw Nintendo's press conference, I've read up on the PSP) I'm more excited about the DS...

The two screens don't excite me all that much (there could be some nice ways to use them, but so far all they've shown are maps, maps, and more maps), but the wireless network, the Wi-Fi, touch screens, and built in mic... Plus backwards compatibility... And (most likely) cheaper price tag than PSP... Plus it's supposed to come out before PSP...

But I still think PSP has potential, and the way Sony was making it out to sound before E3, it could very well end up with most of those things the DS has (minus two screens)... I'm just worried bout the price...

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They better not :mad: ............

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Actually PSP also has built in Wi Fi. (i bold that cuz people dont seem to realize it or keep forgetting it.)

PSP also has a built in USB 2.0 port to connect to PC's Cell phones, PS2/PS3

As far as voice com goes, i would NOT want that. and im surprised nintendo put it in.
When your on a plane, the guy next to you is going to smack you one if your talking to your damn gameboy during the trip. If your in a car ride with someone. do they really want to hear you talking to it?

maybe other ppl will. but i would never use it. i'll leave that function on my PC.

But if you must btw, since the PSP has a usb port, you can just plug in a headset from the PS2 with a mic and heaphones together. :p

Games. as far as i've seen are a lot more interesting on PSP.
so far games on DS look like they been done before, expecially a remake of mario.

PSP seems to have some newer games like GT4, MGS, Viewtiful Joe (yes, VJ is going to kick ass on PSP :) )

Me personally IF i were to get it i'd be getting it for its other fuctions as a media player tho. i've wasted too much money already on gameboys that i never touched when i got them.


and crash. thoes were pretty bad comparisons man. lol. come on. seriously. But i do understand your point and is something ya never know about. people said the same when PS1 was coming out that a new guy would never make it with the likes of Sega and Nintendo.

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Dyne: PSP battery life expected to be around 10 hours

I'm a playstation brand guy now, it seems. Sony seems to put its weight on high-tech, digital entertainment with an insane amount of possibilities. Nintendo is sticking with the 'just gaming' attitude.

The thing is, though, that the PSP games look and sound a lot better than the DS's...plus I'm almost as excited about the other features of the PSP...movies, music, USB connectivity, memory sticks, etc.

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lmfao... Yep, "same old crap." Is it the fact that the PSP has games you've seen elsewhere? From the same franchises, that is?

It's the same on every console and now handheld, and it's most definately evident in the Cube and now DS... the "same old crap" is reproduced over and over. You mentioned some for both sides. PSP is getting a GT and MSG... we've seen that before, why can't we get new games? Yet, you're excited about Animal Crossing and a Wario game? Aren't those also well known titles?

I don't doubt that experience and familiarity can produce good games, but I do doubt that I'll buy a MGS, a GT, a Mario, a Zelda, and a Halo for all generations of the big three (oh yeah, Sonic). Characters get old, and I want to see something fresh... but I don't want to see crap either.

So, yes, PSP does have the same old crap. What has all of E3 been? The same old crap, and all parts of that crap are enjoyed by groups of people who have associated themselves with the games they've tested and loved. Halo2, MGS3, All 10 or so of the new Mario games, The three or four Zelda games, some new Metroids, Viewtiful Joes reprinted on new systems, Gran Turismos... same old crap, but they're still selling systems.

Both DS and PSP will have amazing games. It all depends on your style. There is no comparison.

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I'm not getting the PSP for 2 main reasons. Price and price because they feel the need to cram **** in there.

Nintendo's just gaming attitude is perfect for me. When I have a handheld thats supposed to play games, thats all I want. Price stays reasonable and I can game all I want. I dont want a product with 10 things in it just so that they can charge a **** load more for it. Just give me the damn games.

And in response to DS games already been done before. PSP has the same thing. VJ has been done before, GT has been before, MGS has been done before.

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i believe the 'DS games have been done before' comment was in response to the PSP games have been done bofore comment bfore that. keeps going in a loop. lol

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Good, thats what I want:devil:

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Just goes to show how valid certain arguements can get here...


Well, yes, it'd be a waste of money to get the PSP and just use it for games. The same can go for the DS though... WiFi, touch-sensitive screens, and voice-command are extra features that bump up the price a wee bit. With the DS, however, those features are added to enhance gaming.


Why am I going to buy PSP if it's so expensive?:
- I'd actually enjoy the extra features, and the extra features would spare me from purchasing another portable gadget if I ever wanted one (i.e. MP3 player, video player... I've though of getting one, but I don't want to carry around more than necessary).
- The game prices are super low.
- Like the consoles, this handheld has games that other handhelds do not... games that I have a higher compatability to.

And quite possibly most importantly...
- I do not have to rely on holidays or my parents anymore. I've got a job and no responsibilities, so it doesn't make much a difference if the PSP costs $100 or $300 as long as it ends up paying for itself with the hours that I put into it.

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I have the money too if I wanted to get a PSP but I'm not because its gonna cost too much, IMO. I dont need a video player because my home dvd player is all I use. I dont need an MP3 player in it because I'd rather have a stand alone MP3 player.

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Yes, the same old crap. You could say Viewtiful Joe 2, GT4, and "Metal Solid Gear" as you put it.. but those are all ports for the most part, aren't they?

PSP is LITERALLY a portable PS2, with what, wireless? Aside from wireless, what else is there? Tell me.

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I hate to burst your bubble but their is NO OFFICIAL price. Only speculation.

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All these people talking about how they aren't going to get a PSP because of the price, and the price hasn't even been announced yet. Same can also be said for the DS, no price announcement.

So here's what I'm seeing:

"I don't want a PSP because of the price, even though it hasn't been announced yet, but I'm a very smart person and I can see into the future, so I know the price already. So, I'll get a DS, because I know the price won't be as high, or even very high in general pricing. Sure it hasn't been announced yet either, but my psychic abilities allow me to make my decisions now, instead of later once all the information is actually announced and is valid."

The reason they're "craming all that **** in there" is because PSP is NOT suspose to be like DS/GBA/GB etc. It's suppose to be different, allowing for other features besides just games. If you want a handheld for JUST games, go ahead and buy a DS, if you want other stuff included, buy a PSP. Two different sides, two different styles, they are different systems, and comparing them is lame.

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you cant blame ppl for comparing and i wont say it's 'lame'

everything in life gets compared.

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I don't see people complaining about the portable version of Metroid Prime :Echoes.

Plus Metal Gear Acid is a brand NEW game.
Gran Tursimo comes out during the PS2 launch... it will be fresh, great, and hold at least 9+ months or replayability. 1 freaking game.

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And DS is LITERALLY a portable N64. Oh it has two screens and some touch screen functions, amazing, this must be part of Nintendo's "Revolution".

It is lame, people need to drop this comparison crap and move on. This is how console wars and fanboy crap gets started, just play what you want and what you like.

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Damned 'tard. You just repeated what I said and acted as though I were ignorant of it.

PSP has Playstation games, which you called same old crap. At the same time, you felt excited about DS which has Nintendo games. Congratulations, hypocritical swine-err Dyne.

And don't be surprised when you actually read my previous post concerning this topic and realize that I was defending neither handheld, and rather pointing out the obvious facts that both are similiar. Remove your blindfolds so that we can once again enjoy the E3 forum.

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This has got to be some of the worst arguements/debates I have seen in a long long time here at GT.

Both handhelds are fairly early, and not completed. Both handhelds are going to kick major ass. Both handhelds will have many ports, along with new amazing games. PSP will cost more than DS because it includes more things, and is to be used as a multimedia outlet. The DS will cost more than the PSP because it is focused on gaming only, and will not be used as a multimedia outlet. Both the DS and PSP will sell many many units because the target audience is both different and large.

So can all of you fanboys shut the hell up and stop arguing. Thanks.

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No, arguments keep us together:devil:

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no, the fanboy crap gets started by people not letting others have thier opinions.

your comparing the 2, whether you think you are or not. Thats how you detrmin which you like or which you want to get. your mind compares it.

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I like the PSP but the DS has more to offer me right now. I know developers are going to do some amazing things with the dual-screen configuration. The PSP has a wider screen but that's about it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the games nearly as much as the ones on the DS, and there's no way I'm going to watch a two hour movie on a PSP unless it comes with a free eye doctor's appointment afterwards. Being able to play music is cool, but I'm generally too lazy to download and burn mp3s.

I'd like to own both but if I have to choose then I'll go with the developer's system.

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See, and how did he get to thoes opinions? he compared them.

Comparing them is NOT a bad or lame thing. its a life thing. it just happens.

the bad comes out when some people aren't allowed to have thier opinions that they form.

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Oh and in my opinion the PSP looks much nicer than the DS. Fortunately I saw on gamespot that the DS will undergo cosmetic adjustments before release. Of course "cosmetic adjustment" rarely equates to "radical redesign" heh."

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Just make the DS look sleeker and more sexy then you'll be able to actually show it in public:p

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yea. the different design goes along with the differnt audience they're targeting.

i expect a few things to spiffy up the DS a bit. but they wont go so far as changing the basic design of it much.

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I don't mind if they change the design much; I just hope they find some way to accomodate using the stylus easily, because on most devices it's a one-hand feat holding it while writing, and the DS looks much bigger than a Palm. And for lefties.. that could be an issue. I mean, when I'm writing with my right hand, my left hand can hold it, with my left thumb over the digital pad -- what about the right buttons? I'm going to have to put the stylus somewhere or hold it awkwardly while I'm using those four buttons.

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Ok, you didn't understand what I said earlier. If you'll look at my whole post, instead of the very last sentence, you'll see I was trying to make a different point. I know all about human psychology, human brains compare things, yep they sure do. You seem to think I was talking about comparison in general, I'm talking about comparison of these two items, with improper and invalid "facts" being used in opinions.

"I don't want PSP cause of price, DS however I will get, because price will be lower, even though neither price has been announced" You see how I compared those? And do you also see how I used a biased, and invalid opinion?

I never once said people shouldn't compare things. But in THIS topic, with THESE items, using THOSE opinions, I'm afraid that is LAME.

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i know what ya mean. i guess im just not a fan of how your wording it.

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DS's design is not final. The console shown at the show is a prototype. They had to whip it up so people could actually play the games.

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*Feels cold chill*.....sooo ...much ...hate

I dont think Ill get either of the new handhelds. I would rather play my consoles. I never could find a use for a handheld other then vacation. and Ill just use my gameboy and pokemon/tetris for the little times when I start going in withdrawl. :D