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Dylflon 12-08-2003 06:03 PM

Mario & Lugi Superstar Saga
 
Wow. I've been playing this game for the past week and it is so much fun. The only two characters you get are Mario and Luigi and they're pretty much the same but still, so fun. You can jump to dodge attacks and hit buttons at the right time to deal extra damage. The bros. attacks are sweet . The puzzles are great too. I can't say it enough. This game is just plain fun.

I'm going to quote Dyne in saying "Those guys [Mario & Luigi] know how to party"

Pick this game up. It'll rock your socks.

GameMaster 12-08-2003 06:15 PM

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I'm asking for it for Christmas, thanks for the good review. :)

Jonbo298 12-08-2003 06:42 PM

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I've had the game since it came out (along with MK: DD). I was playing it for awhile, then kind of stopped all of a sudden. Damn work and my ability to must sleep for long hours.

But its a fun game. I highly recommend it if you liked either Super Mario RPG or Paper Mario.

thatmariolover 12-08-2003 07:31 PM

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I thought it was awesome. Just a bit short with kind of a sudden ending. But that was probably just me.

Dyne 12-09-2003 01:24 AM

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I was going to pick it up today at Future Shop, but I split a Game Boy Player instead. I still have enough... I should probably pick this up on boxing day.

CrOnO_LiNk 12-09-2003 10:52 PM

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This game owns. I got it last week and the game is way too fun. It reminds me of SMRPG in some ways... Damn, too fun. It has that awesome Mario feeling. Pick it up today!

Best GBA game to date.

Dark Samurai 12-10-2003 08:25 AM

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I got this game but alwhile back and i already beat it

but the humor of this game is so fudgin' funny as hell

like when they dont know Luigi

that comedy

Jason1 12-26-2003 07:59 PM

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My brother got it for christmas, what a joy to play. I love the combat, its turn based but not in the boring way turn based combat usually is. It can be funny at times too. Gotta love the refrences to past mario games. The border jump minigame game is pure nintendo bliss. You just dont find that kinda thing anymore.

Jonbo298 12-26-2003 08:11 PM

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This is one of a very few turn based RPG's I like. I really hate turn based RPG's because they are so slow that my interest can't last for more then 15 minutes. But with M&L, they made it so while the enemie's turn is happening, you can actually do something. And have fun with M&L Jason!

DarkMaster 12-26-2003 10:20 PM

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It contains one of the most basic forms of turned based combat ever (attack, item, special, escape). Perhaps you guys haven't played enough RPGs.

GameMaster 12-26-2003 11:23 PM

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I got it last night, I'm enjoying it. Nice graphics too. Why does the Game Boy Player logo appear when you first start up the game though? Is it specially designed for use with the Gameboy Player?

Jonbo298 12-27-2003 12:40 AM

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Yes, to an extent. It has a rumble feature.

thatmariolover 12-27-2003 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster
It contains one of the most basic forms of turned based combat ever (attack, item, special, escape). Perhaps you guys haven't played enough RPGs.

It sounds like you must not have gotten into Superstar Saga that much (or the first Mario RPG). In real time you can dodge enemies attacks as they approach you. Or, in some situations, you can hit the enemy as he comes close to you as long as you time the hit button at the right time. Timed attacking is the basis of battle in Superstar Saga.

BreakABone 12-27-2003 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster
It contains one of the most basic forms of turned based combat ever (attack, item, special, escape). Perhaps you guys haven't played enough RPGs.

I've always preferred the Mario RPGs to most traditional RPG, well one being the character and the other is that for the most part you are always active.

DarkMaster 12-27-2003 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
It sounds like you must not have gotten into Superstar Saga that much (or the first Mario RPG). In real time you can dodge enemies attacks as they approach you. Or, in some situations, you can hit the enemy as he comes close to you as long as you time the hit button at the right time. Timed attacking is the basis of battle in Superstar Saga.

I've played 70% of superstar saga and I've played nearly 50% of both mario rpg and paper mario. You think just because you can hit a button at the right time to dodge an attack that it makes this battle system an evolution in turned based combat?

The standard turned based combat in rpgs these days is nearly 10 times deeper than this combat. I'm not dregading the game or anything, don't take me wrong, it's a really fun game, but I knows me RPGs and this one is basic in terms of combat.

Jonbo298 12-27-2003 06:06 PM

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I'm glad its "basic" in terms of combat. I can't see Nintendo making a really deep Mario RPG thats similar to an FF game.

DarkMaster 12-27-2003 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
I'm glad its "basic" in terms of combat. I can't see Nintendo making a really deep Mario RPG thats similar to an FF game.

I agree, and again, I'm not saying basic is bad or anything, it suits this game just fine.

Jonbo298 12-27-2003 06:17 PM

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True. It doesn't need to have you remember 50 things. Mario games always need to have some kind of simple factor because thats the reason I come back to play any mario game over and over is because I can just jump in when I want. But maybe someday Ninty will make some kind of really deep Mario game to satisfy the hardcore gamers. Maybe a MMO mario game for the N5?:D

Jason1 12-27-2003 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
You think just because you can hit a button at the right time to dodge an attack that it makes this battle system an evolution in turned based combat?


Yes. And its a helluva lot more fun. (not that all other turn based combat is bad, Grandia 2 comes to mind as one I really enjoyed)

thatmariolover 12-27-2003 11:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster
I've played 70% of superstar saga and I've played nearly 50% of both mario rpg and paper mario. You think just because you can hit a button at the right time to dodge an attack that it makes this battle system an evolution in turned based combat?

The standard turned based combat in rpgs these days is nearly 10 times deeper than this combat. I'm not dregading the game or anything, don't take me wrong, it's a really fun game, but I knows me RPGs and this one is basic in terms of combat.

I've played 100% of all three. Several times (twice for Superstar Saga). And yes, I do think it is an evolution. It's an evolution from the basic principals of turn-based combat. While all turn-based combat systems stem from a particular route, most of them have evolved in a singular direction. They all start at "A", but most of them went to "B". However, Nintendo went to "C". While "C" hasn't been developed to the extent that "B" has, I still prefer the basic principals that "C" offers in place of "B".

Like what you want. I like what Nintendo's done with turn-based combat and I can hardly wait to see what they do to further its development.

DarkMaster 12-28-2003 01:41 PM

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Nintendo hasn't done anything with turned based combat. Square Soft developed Mario RPG which was the first to incorporate the "evolution" you speak of. How has that combat evolved since then? Paper Mario follows the same basic principles, and M&L is nearly identicle.

Like I said, Nintendo hasn't done anything drastically new, they do what they always do: find something their fans like and repeat it as many times as possible.

Further what development? The addition of a button press, a development they did not even make in the first place? Interactivity during turned based gameplay is not anything new, it is featured in many RPGs, and they involve much more than pressing a button at the appropriate time.

It is basic turned based combat, not by matter of opinion. And let me make myself clear once again: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. I do like the game, I like all the Mario RPG games, and this form of combat is on no hindrance to me. The problem I have is the comparison being made that all other RPGs are pale when confronted with these games.

Jonbo298 12-28-2003 06:05 PM

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I don't think the comparison being said by you makes other RPG's pale. I know what you mean. (But good on clarifying for some other peoples:))

Jason1 12-28-2003 10:01 PM

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In the woods, where you have to collect the 3 colored things, there is a large koopa looking guy blocking my way, that says something like "Nothing can knock me down...I think". How do I get past him? Nothing seems to work...I hit him with my hammer from the sides, I cant hit him from the front because it initates a conversation...

Jonbo298 12-28-2003 10:23 PM

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Yesterday, I figured out how to knock down the big koopa guys.



*SMALL SPOILER*




You can't knock them down with the hammer




*End small spoiler*




I think where you are, you can't knock them down yet...but after you learn a few more techniques, you can knock them down.

thatmariolover 12-29-2003 01:05 PM

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Indeed. You will learn a technique. It will be obvious when you learn the right one.

DarkMaster 12-29-2003 01:32 PM

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Exactly how long is this game anyway? I think I'm closer to being finished than I thought.

thatmariolover 12-29-2003 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Exactly how long is this game anyway? I think I'm closer to being finished than I thought.

How long have you been playing? Where are you at?

I beat it in about 11 hours (although, that timer could be off because I left the game running by accident a couple times).

Dyne 12-30-2003 01:35 AM

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Damn! I tried looking for this game a couple of days ago, but they were all out, everywhere. I got Golden Sun 2 instead.

But still, man. Must be popular.

GCD423 12-30-2003 09:44 AM

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ive had this game 4 about a month and i still havent beaten it.(only beacause i got megaman Zero 2 and this game rules)still this game is great cause it has some weird combos and its hilarious

u should really get the best place to probably get is maybe GameStop

Vampyr 12-30-2003 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GCD423
ive had this game 4 about a month and i still havent beaten it.(only beacause i got megaman Zero 2 and this game rules)still this game is great cause it has some weird combos and its hilarious

u should really get the best place to probably get is maybe GameStop

So, uh, is GameStop's games they sell like better than the games sold at other places? :p

GCD423 12-30-2003 06:40 PM

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i got this game like a month a go and its great, hard,and, hilarious although i havent beaten it yet(because i was distracted with other gba games)uh Nintendo rules all.

DarkMaster 12-30-2003 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GCD423
i got this game like a month a go and its great, hard,and, hilarious although i havent beaten it yet(because i was distracted with other gba games)uh Nintendo rules all.

....hard?



Yeah, you must be a Nintendo fanboy.

Jason1 12-30-2003 09:54 PM

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Yea, this guy is a bigger fanboy than I am. At least I branch my likes out to anything SEGA and some stuff on the PC.

Jason1 01-25-2004 10:58 PM

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Alright, the final boss is p0wning me. (I mean the one inside the belly) I start off okay, its attacks are easy to doge and so fourth. But later on the damn thing starts doing that lazer thing, which is dogeable but hard as hell to doge, and that stupid ball thing gets me every time. Besides, that, he gets to go like 5 times in a row to your once. Really a pain in the ass. Im gonna be so relieved when I finally do beat this guy. Any tips?

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 01-26-2004 11:22 AM

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don't die, always works for me

Jason1 02-01-2004 08:53 PM

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Welp I beat it the other day. Great game, I dont know what people are smoking when they say its a short game, took me 21 hours according to the game clock.


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