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just because Im bored and this thread died a little
how many people belive in god how many dont?



*edit* whoops if a mod could delete this, never mind delete the other one thx =-D

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I believe!

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I believe!

I saw this thread, but I don't want to decide right now. That is... my "decision". Yes, my decision is indecision!

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and thats a good decision

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Not that I know of...

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Bah, I feel like stirring things a little.

So before I vote on the poll, I'm going to ask this: Define God.

And "that guy in the Bible" doesn't count. I might be Muslim and thus believe in a different God who is nonetheless, for most purposes, the same thing.

I believe monotheism should suffice as a criteria.

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I don't believe in a God.

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I have my own version of God, so that means I believe in some form of a god.:D

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A unexplainable power who both created us and everything else you know, and a invisible presense that is watching everybody in the world at the same time. A powerful being who you will not see in your current form.

That's not a 100% answer as far as I'm concerned, but basically that's it for most religions.

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You beat me to it!

Giving "God" a name was such a bad idea...

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God = Gravy

That's all there is to it...Mmmmm....gravy. Anyway, I made the same choice as Random on this one.

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I made a choice?


Heh, oh yeah... indecision ¦¬Þ

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There is a God.

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I think that god is real.

I think that God spells Dog backwards and vice versa.

I like how, since I didn't vote, I can view results and therefor see every what every member voted for. ... Yaaay

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i dont believe in god at all i just think that god heavan and hell and the devil is just some made up story
but thats just me

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Seems like there are way more believers than non believers, heh.

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Hmmm, I can't quite place my finger on it, but I find those points invalid. Particularly #3.

If a being cannot be created from "nothing", then there must obviously have been a being there to make it? That's so, so basic... and it creates paradoxes. The reasoning there is that humans can't just "be"... because we are humans, and we weren't just kind of here ("proven" at birth). Therefor, there must be something greater which made us. Case closed, right? Ahem... And what created that special something? Why would it be able to create itself while life has the inability to create itself? Why would the greater being create a life that "needs creations"? If it's impossible to understand something, how can you claim it is absolute?

Oh well, not my problem right now. I'm just going to "be".

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I would like to clarify my stance on god ace got my password and voted for me, I wasnt going to vote. hes just pissed because I was making fun of him for his low rep. now i got a lot of bad rep for voting for no god and it wasnt me it was ace that voted that way... SO stop with all the negitive rep im down to 50 :)

I don't see what's so hard to imagine that there is something out there that just isn't perceptible to humans that is more powerful than us. The concept of infinity is known and understood in mathematics, but just can't exist in the case of a God?

I believe I can fly....

Oh, wait, thats not right...nevermind.

Yeah, I believe in God.

Why were the results made public. I think thats stupid.

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man you complian too much and your just as critizing as Ginkasa J/K
=-D

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Well sure I voted but that doesn't mean I'd like everyone to see it. I should have checked to see if the results were public or not i guess.

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Not to sound mean or anything, but you can clearly see before you vote that it says "This is a public poll. Everyone can see your choice(s)" (not an exact quote, but close enough:p)

Yes. I know. But I was too care free and frolicky to look. I'm not mad. I just think this would have been better were the results private.

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make one thats priviate that way we cam compare results and see whos voting for god in front of others just to make themselfs look better(no im not being sarcastick or talking bad about you) it would be cool to compare results

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If it's what you belive, it's what you believe... If you are ashamed of what you think, well, that's your loss.

Bech. I'd rather go without explaining myself...but whatever.

I have a rather interesting view of things.

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Bad example, come up with something more reasonable and I may argue. Infinity is a word that defines a proven situation, God is a term used to describe a belief of the creation of life. Infinity = Proven, God = not.

Believe me when I say this though, while I may doubt the existance of God, I do believe it does exist slightly more than I believe it doesn't. The "concept" is EASY to understand. A child could understand that, as well as someone of even less intelligence.

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Damn Elitist Narcissist

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I don't see what's so different about God and infinity.
No beginning and no end, is attributed to both.
Do you need to know what created him to believe in him? Do you need to know when he was born, and his approximate lifespan?
A perfect example to me is like trying to measure the distance from east to west. It just never ends.

Numbers 3 and 4 seem to make the most sense to me.
Things just can't pop out of the air. They have to come from something. Like the old chicken and egg argument. Which came first? Why does it matter? How did it get there?


Maybe this doesn't make sense to you but it makes perfect sense to me.

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Why can your god be infinite or have "popped out of the air" but the elements wich our universe is made of, can't?

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Because we see when they end. The elements which our universe are finite because when can see how they start and know that they have an ending. If something has an ending, it has a beginning, right?

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Depends on your definition of proof... if you take the bible and read it like it's a history book, then it is proven recorded history, if you don't then you can't prove anything that has happend before your life span and that you haven't seen with your own eyes.

Some people "know" God is real just like people "know" George Washington was the first president... Neither of us can prove either thing w/o looking to other people's accounts. Even then, how many people walking the earth today got to see George Washington with thier own eyes, and had a conversation with him?

In a way there is no proof except in books that others wrote.

What do you accept as proof?

Mathematics is the only thing certain in this world, as is our very existance, anything and everything else we believe you chose to believe. Even more so for things that aren't documented history in our own lives.

It all depends on the person. If you want to approach the bible as some ficticious book when you read it, you won't believe it... not because it isn't true, it's because you don't believe it. Same goes for any other religious book... or any book for that matter.

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Right, but I fail to see how anything ends. Let's take the atom for exemple, you can shatter it, but it will only separate into smaller particules, it doesn't end.

No energy is created, nor lost in the universe.